(Secondary) attack types (https://code.wildfiregames.com/D368)

[Ceres]

This was started because of this:

Maybe we can discuss here about secondary attack types and how this is proposed there:

https://code.wildfiregames.com/D368

[Stan`]

Bring back A23!

Seriously though I think this would be a great addition to the engine. I can see it being used for the 1866 mod.

[Ceres]

1866 mod?

[maroder]

I'm in favor, there are so many interesting possibilities. Although it may make balancing harder.

[Stan`]

31 minutes ago, Ceres said:

1866 mod?

See this and this

[Ceres]

But why is secondary attacks specifically a topic for this mod? For testing purposes? Could it eventually flow into vanilla 0ad?

[Stan`]

Well the goal is to have it in Vanilla so other mods can use it too.

[Micfild]

Hi! If it is of any interest, i've found that if you copy the <melee> attack of a spearman.xml and add it to a javelineer.xml file it will show on the ui, but the javelineer will still only use it's ranged attack. However, if you change the <PreferredClasses datatype="tokens"> of that <melee> attack from "Human" to "Structure", when you order those Javelineers to attack a structure, they will use the melee attack instead of the ranged one. I even changed the damage of the melee attack to something stupid like 250 Hack just to be sure that it wasn't using the damage values of the ranged attack.

I might be wrong, but this small experiment leads me to believe that it might be possible to implement the secondary attack mechanic by making use of this preference thing.

Also, i found in the component Attack.js a GetBestAttackAgainst function (lines 343 to 378), that draws a distinction between Slaughter, Capture and other forms of attack. I don't know if this function is used or not since i haven't found another reference to it, but it might be possible to add more distinctions to it (maybe even one based on distance between units and stuff).

I don't know if this will help but, who knows?

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

18 hours ago, Stan&#x60; said:

Bring back A23!

 

Nah, merge DE. 

[Stan`]

6 hours ago, Micfild said:

Hi! If it is of any interest, i've found that if you copy the <melee> attack of a spearman.xml and add it to a javelineer.xml file it will show on the ui, but the javelineer will still only use it's ranged attack. However, if you change the <PreferredClasses datatype="tokens"> of that <melee> attack from "Human" to "Structure", when you order those Javelineers to attack a structure, they will use the melee attack instead of the ranged one. I even changed the damage of the melee attack to something stupid like 250 Hack just to be sure that it wasn't using the damage values of the ranged attack.

I might be wrong, but this small experiment leads me to believe that it might be possible to implement the secondary attack mechanic by making use of this preference thing.

Also, i found in the component Attack.js a GetBestAttackAgainst function (lines 343 to 378), that draws a distinction between Slaughter, Capture and other forms of attack. I don't know if this function is used or not since i haven't found another reference to it, but it might be possible to add more distinctions to it (maybe even one based on distance between units and stuff).

I don't know if this will help but, who knows?

Well it already works in @bb_'s patch

[Micfild]

1 hour ago, Stan&#x60; said:

Well it already works in @bb_'s patch

Is that the 1866 mod that you mentioned before or something else?

[Stan`]

2 minutes ago, Micfild said:

Is that the 1866 mod that you mentioned before or something else?

No that's this patch https://code.wildfiregames.com/D368

[Lion.Kanzen]

On 22/09/2021 at 12:08 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Nah, merge DE. 

Not at all. 90%.

[Lion.Kanzen]

this patch would save us from having several units that are the same.

it happens with certain skirmishers who were also swordmen.