faction02 Posted November 12, 2021 Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 09/10/2021 at 5:38 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: In Delenda Est, the Kushite pyramids are used as Phase tech requirements. So, X number of Small Pyramids required to move to Phase II, and Y number of Large Pyramids required to move to Phase III. Perhaps a point for discussion? Once you build the required number of pyramids, then the Phase techs research instantly. I like the idea, but maybe it could be used to affect more the gameplay. For example, if there is a minimum distance between pyramids (similar to the one of tower), then the Kushites would be forced to spread pyramids (it could be interpreted as spreading cultural influence? ). This would make phasing up slightly more risky and makes early aggression on Kushites a more relevant strategy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted November 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 hours ago, faction02 said: I like the idea, but maybe it could be used to affect more the gameplay. For example, if there is a minimum distance between pyramids (similar to the one of tower), then the Kushites would be forced to spread pyramids (it could be interpreted as spreading cultural influence? ). This would make phasing up slightly more risky and makes early aggression on Kushites a more relevant strategy. Not bad, but Kushite pyramids are clustered in reality, usually in what we call a "Necropolis", aka "City of the Dead." Something to think about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabius Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 13/09/2021 at 1:46 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: All Citizen-Soldiers types in every civ have Rank Promotion technologies up to Advanced. Exceptions 1 type of Citizen-Soldier per civ will have an additional promotion tech up to Elite. 1 type of Citizen-Soldier per civ will have no promotion techs. Its an interesting idea, it does make certain automatic third rank troops impossible though, for instance Skiritai commandos and the possibility of third rank Triarii( which I am hopeful gets added). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted November 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Fabius said: Its an interesting idea, it does make certain automatic third rank troops impossible though, for instance Skiritai commandos and the possibility of third rank Triarii( which I am hopeful gets added). No impossible. Rules do have exceptions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabius Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: No impossible. Rules do have exceptions. Understood. In that case as a further expansion, how about borrowing the rank four centurion promotion from Delende Est and applying it to the core 0 AD Rome? With the extra distinction of applying to either Triarii or Hastati/Principe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted November 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 21/11/2021 at 1:52 PM, Fabius said: Understood. In that case as a further expansion, how about borrowing the rank four centurion promotion from Delende Est and applying it to the core 0 AD Rome? With the extra distinction of applying to either Triarii or Hastati/Principe? I think I could come up with a pretty good "Republican Centurion" actor with the available assets if the rest of the team signs off on such a feature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabius Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: I think I could come up with a pretty good "Republican Centurion" actor with the available assets if the rest of the team signs off on such a feature. Epic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabius Posted November 25, 2021 Report Share Posted November 25, 2021 I mentioned elsewhere but what about changing the current Legionary Engineers bonus from just a straight catapult attack bonus to rather having legionaries build catapults instead like they do in Delende Est, which is an awesome mechanic, the idea of catapult dropping someone is hilarious. It completes the roman siege inventory of siege walls and fortified camps I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted April 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 On 21/11/2021 at 1:52 PM, Fabius said: Understood. In that case as a further expansion, how about borrowing the rank four centurion promotion from Delende Est and applying it to the core 0 AD Rome? With the extra distinction of applying to either Triarii or Hastati/Principe? On 25/11/2021 at 3:18 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: I think I could come up with a pretty good "Republican Centurion" actor with the available assets if the rest of the team signs off on such a feature. On 25/11/2021 at 4:30 PM, Fabius said: Epic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapjas Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 59 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Small nitpick, but i think the sheaths are on the wrong side of the hip. They were generally worn on the opposite side of the dominant hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Grapjas said: Small nitpick, but i think the sheaths are on the wrong side of the hip. They were generally worn on the opposite side of the dominant hand. Nope they were worn on the right side because the geometry of the scutum would interfere with the drawing of the sword. Well thats the common explanation but it could a fashion thing, like wearing the left greave only. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIEND Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 32 分钟前,PyrrhicVictoryGuy 说道: 不,它们被戴在右侧,因为盾牌的几何形状会干扰剑的绘制。 好吧,这就是常见的解释,但它可能是一种时尚,比如只穿左护胫。 That's not fashion, and if you've ever used a sword and shield, you'll find that in combat your left leg is in a lunge in front and your right leg is supported in the back. In this position, the shield is more resistant to impact and your right leg is safe in the back, so you only need to protect the left calf in front with the shin guard. In addition, it has little to do with the shape of the shield. This is mainly because the sword at this time is relatively short, the scabbard is on the right side of the body, and the sword is drawn upwards faster. You can't do this if the sword is longer than 80cm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapjas Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said: Nope they were worn on the right side because the geometry of the scutum would interfere with the drawing of the sword. Well thats the common explanation but it could a fashion thing, like wearing the left greave only. This discussion is pretty interesting. it is noted that romans typically wore their sword on the right side seemingly regardless of what hand you are fighting with. However it's also noted that centurions wore it on the left side, of which the image i quoted is about. Edited April 8, 2022 by Grapjas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Grapjas said: This discussion is pretty interesting. it is noted that romans typically wore their sword on the right side seemingly regardless of what hand you are fighting with. 25 minutes ago, AIEND said: In addition, it has little to do with the shape of the shield. This is mainly because the sword at this time is relatively short, the scabbard is on the right side of the body, and the sword is drawn upwards faster. You can't do this if the sword is longer than 80cm. Celts wore their swords on the right side, even at the end of iron age when the swords reached very long sizes. This is attested by classical accounts and native depictions. Edit: also this is correct that the Centurions wore their swords on the left as a distinctive feature. This is corroborated by funerary stelae. Edited April 8, 2022 by Genava55 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 hour ago, AIEND said: That's not fashion, and if you've ever used a sword and shield, you'll find that in combat your left leg is in a lunge in front and your right leg is supported in the back. In this position, the shield is more resistant to impact and your right leg is safe in the back, so you only need to protect the left calf in front with the shin guard. In addition, it has little to do with the shape of the shield. This is mainly because the sword at this time is relatively short, the scabbard is on the right side of the body, and the sword is drawn upwards faster. You can't do this if the sword is longer than 80cm. I'll contest your statement on the greaves thing as to my knowledge this feature was characteristic of the italian peoples. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIEND Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 6 分钟前,PyrrhicVictoryGuy 说道: 我会反驳你关于护胫的说法,据我所知,这个特征是意大利人民的特征。 This should be an eclectic product of the Italians influenced by Greek hoplite, because many peoples with swordsmen do not have greaves at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIEND Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Genava55 said: 凯尔特人将剑佩戴在右侧,即使在铁器时代末期,剑的尺寸也很长。 古典记述和本土描述证明了这一点。 编辑:百夫长在左边佩戴剑作为一个独特的特征也是正确的。 墓碑证实了这一点。 This at least means that whether the sword hangs on the left or right side of the body has nothing to do with the shape of the shield. Edited April 8, 2022 by AIEND 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIEND Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 28 分钟前,PyrrhicVictoryGuy 说道: 我会反驳你关于护胫的说法,据我所知,这个特征是意大利人民的特征。 In the Ming Dynasty, the Chinese invented a kind of armor with only the left half of the body, which was equipped for the pikeman, which only protected the side facing the enemy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 20 minutes ago, AIEND said: This should be an eclectic product of the Italians influenced by Greek hoplite, because many peoples with swordsmen do not have greaves at all. Well you can give the italians some credit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 Concerning the topic of single geaves, this is attested by an account, Livy: LIVY, 9, 40: Equal danger, and an issue equally glorious, soon after attended the war with the Samnites; who, besides their many preparations for the field, made their army to glitter with new decorations of their armour. [2] Their troops were in two divisions, one of which had their shields embossed with gold, the other with silver. The shape of the shield was this; broad at the middle to cover the breast and shoulders, the summit being flat, sloping off gradually so as to become pointed below, that it might be wielded with ease; [3] a cuirass also served as a protection for the breast, and the left leg was covered with a greave; their helmets were adorned with plumes, to add to the appearance of their stature. [4] The golden-armed soldiers wore tunics of various colours; the silver-armed, of white linen. To the latter the right wing was assigned; the former took post on the left. [5] The Romans had been apprized of these splendid accoutrements, and had been taught by their commanders, that “a soldier ought to be rough; not decorated with gold and silver, but placing his confidence in his sword. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, Genava55 said: Concerning the topic of single geaves, this is attested by an account, Livy: LIVY, 9, 40: Equal danger, and an issue equally glorious, soon after attended the war with the Samnites; who, besides their many preparations for the field, made their army to glitter with new decorations of their armour. [2] Their troops were in two divisions, one of which had their shields embossed with gold, the other with silver. The shape of the shield was this; broad at the middle to cover the breast and shoulders, the summit being flat, sloping off gradually so as to become pointed below, that it might be wielded with ease; [3] a cuirass also served as a protection for the breast, and the left leg was covered with a greave; their helmets were adorned with plumes, to add to the appearance of their stature. [4] The golden-armed soldiers wore tunics of various colours; the silver-armed, of white linen. To the latter the right wing was assigned; the former took post on the left. [5] The Romans had been apprized of these splendid accoutrements, and had been taught by their commanders, that “a soldier ought to be rough; not decorated with gold and silver, but placing his confidence in his sword. This is about the linen legion right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said: This is about the linen legion right? Yes, the Samnites are described in length in the book 9 and 10 of Livy's history of Rome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabius Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 10 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Very very nice 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabius Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 Greaves seems reasonable as officers could afford to pay for extra things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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