A25 Feedbacks from testing

[Yekaterina]

1 hour ago, Nobbi said:

Sorry, I mean seconds not minutes. Training of soldiers for Romans in barracks, with team bonus, is now 9 sec and in the army camp it is 11 sec. But it might also be on purpose because soldiers from the camp have already rank 2?

I made it 12 seconds in the bellum mod. 

 

1 hour ago, Nobbi said:

Its even 5 structures of P1 needed to go to P2. Anyway I understand there are no more P2 structures. But why where towers removed? Was there a discussion somewhere? I would like to read it.

I second that. Not sure why  the decision was made. We want to make Town phase not obsolete. 

[Silier]

Towers were removed from requirements to not allow to reach next phase just by building bunch of towers

[wraitii]

See also the discussion at https://code.wildfiregames.com/D3686

 

[Ceres]

On 02/06/2021 at 3:04 PM, StarAtt said:

Open a terminal, simply copy this entirely and paste:

 

sudo apt update && sudo apt install subversion build-essential cmake libboost-dev libboost-system-dev   \
    libboost-filesystem-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libenet-dev libfmt-dev   \
    libgloox-dev libicu-dev libminiupnpc-dev libnvtt-dev libogg-dev   \
    libopenal-dev libpng-dev libsdl2-dev libsodium-dev libvorbis-dev   \
    libxml2-dev python rustc zlib1g-dev wx3.0-headers libwxbase3.0-dev libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-dev libwxbase3.0-0v5 libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 -y && svn co https://svn.wildfiregames.com/public/ps/trunk/ 0adsvn && cd 0adsvn/build/workspaces && ./update-workspaces.sh -j3 && cd gcc && make -j3 && cd ../../.. && binaries/system/test

enter your password and wait until it says "...............OK!" and you can find pyrogenesis in binaries/system/

You can learn terminal during the build though.

@Stan`

Would you like to consider that this is pinned in the right spot? I find it very useful and assume that others do, too. (Yes, I can alternatively build in Linux besides Win 10)

[Ceres]

On 02/06/2021 at 3:41 PM, Yekaterina said:

@LetswaveaBook here:

https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/BuildInstructions

Copy and paste the corresponding commands for ubuntu/debian into the terminal, then hit enter. You don't need to understand what they mean. 

Here are probably the exact commands you will need. Copy them in and execute one step at a time please. Exclude the bullet points. 

• cd ~/

• 
  sudo apt-get install build-essential cmake libboost-dev libboost-system-dev   \
      libboost-filesystem-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libenet-dev libfmt-dev   \
      libgloox-dev libicu-dev libminiupnpc-dev libnvtt-dev libogg-dev   \
      libopenal-dev libpng-dev libsdl2-dev libsodium-dev libvorbis-dev   \
      libxml2-dev python rustc subversion zlib1g-dev

• 
  sudo apt install wx3.0-headers libwxbase3.0-dev libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-dev

• sudo apt install libwxbase3.0-0v5 libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5
• svn co https://svn.wildfiregames.com/public/ps/trunk/ 0ad
• cd 0ad/build/workspaces
• ./update-workspaces.sh -j5
• cd gcc
• make -j5

Note the number after '-j' is the the number of cores (including hyperthreading) that you have, plus one. At this point your build of 0AD is finished. To run the program in the future:

• cd ~/0ad/binaries/system/
• pyrogenesis

 

And this, too. Well, it's already in the build instructions, so maybe pinning this and the other thread is not needed. Sorry for my maybe superflous comments.

[StarAtt]

14 minutes ago, Ceres said:

@Stan`

Would you like to consider that this is pinned in the right spot? I find it very useful and assume that others do, too. (Yes, I can alternatively build in Linux besides Win 10)

We can actually have another build instruction with basic terminal usage though.

[Ceres]

4 hours ago, Angen said:

Towers were removed from requirements to not allow to reach next phase just by building bunch of towers

Maybe my comment is not in the right context here, but when I read the quoted post, I think about building 5(?) houses is sufficient to reach phase II, correct? Is this intended? Would you consider giving this another thought?

When hovering over the button to progress to a next phase, we see hints like we need to build e.g. 4 more entities of this and that. But of what exactly? The same, e.g. identical houses, or 4 other structures that we have not yet built? This is (to me) not clear. I have not consulted the Wiki or other information sources about this, but maybe we can make this clearer in the in-game hint?

Do you want me to move (or repeat) my comment over there maybe?

Suggestions for 0 A.D.

 

Edited June 3, 2021 by Ceres

[Ceres]

Same with the following comment from yet another thread:

Quote

Could developers maybe consider introducing profiles? Thus, players could save their settings differently for e.g. single player matches, as compared to multiplayer matches (against AI and/or humans, if it made a difference), or maybe savind less demanding settings in another profile if planning to play with more players. Would this be feasible and possible?

Would it make sense to create a "test map" as a reference to find out optimal gfx settings and compare them between platforms? Maybe such a map should contain different - how do you call that? - textures (Alpine, Sea, water in general to consider water reflections and other effects), trees and structures for shadows, and lots of units to start with (to see how that would draw on performance).

If that all does not make sense to you, it's simply because I am too unexperienced with program/game development (incl. 0 A.D.), so please accept my apologies.

 

Edited June 3, 2021 by Ceres

[Yekaterina]

6 hours ago, Ceres said:

When hovering over the button to progress to a next phase, we see hints like we need to build e.g. 4 more entities of this and that. But of what exactly? The same, e.g. identical houses, or 4 other structures that we have not yet built? This is (to me) not clear. I have not consulted the Wiki or other information sources about this, but maybe we can make this clearer in the in-game hint?

I can patch that. Just exactly what should we put there?

[Yekaterina]

Now I can't host a multiplayer game in A25. 

 

 

[Stan`]

@Yekaterina your config seems invalid anything broken there ?

@wraitii

[Yekaterina]

2 hours ago, Stan` said:

@Yekaterina your config seems invalid anything broken there ?

@wraitii

Thanks Stan I deleted user.cfg then rebooted the game. It deleted all of my settings but I could host a game now. I think there was something wrong in the config as I have both A24 and A25 installed. 

[Stan`]

@Yekaterina can you upload your old config? Make sure to delete your lobby password there.

[Yekaterina]

1 hour ago, Stan` said:

@Yekaterina can you upload your old config? Make sure to delete your lobby password there.

I have already deleted it, but when I restored the file from wastebin it magically worked. Anyways, here is the thing:

 

[Stan`]

Thanks, there was nothing weird in there. Maybe the port was wrong. Had to remove the attachment cause you uploaded your password in there.

[Ceres]

19 hours ago, Yekaterina said:

I can patch that. Just exactly what should we put there?

Sorry, but I have no idea what exactly needs to be built to progress. Anyone else?

[Ceres]

Speaking about sensitive data: Which files of 0 A.D. can contain such? Is there a way to have them auto-removed or anonymised? I mean when logs are created. If logs don't contain such info, then this is of course only relevant for config files, where auto-removal does not make sense. Still, I would be interested to learn which (potentially) could contain sensitive data. Sorry about this partly OT question and thanks for your hints.

[wraitii]

The logs should be OK to share, but the config file contains your lobby password (hashed, but it's still usable to connect with your account).

[Yekaterina]

11 hours ago, Stan` said:

Thanks, there was nothing weird in there. Maybe the port was wrong. Had to remove the attachment cause you uploaded your password in there.

Thanks Stan for saving my privacy. As you can tell from my password I am a Star Trek fan

On a more serious note, the trees of India and Nubia biome need repairing; their canopies are much larger than the actual selection box so you don't know where to click. Also, if you build a storehouse under a tree u can't see the storehouse anymore. Please either make the canopy size reasonable or make the selectionbox larger, as well as the model's area larger than the canopy please. 

[Yekaterina]

That big blob was just 1 tree

[Lion.Kanzen]

4 minutes ago, Yekaterina said:

That big blob was just 1 tree

How good do you consider yourself creating new units?

 

I discovered that the Iberians are short of cavalry.

[Yekaterina]

47 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

How good do you consider yourself creating new units?

I am able to code the xml template files, including any reasonable features. Any cavalry unit should be easy enough for me. 

In terms of modelling, I can make some models by recycling the existing .dae files but they will not look beautiful at all. If it is cavalry you are looking for I believe I can just change the props to your liking. 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

1 hour ago, Yekaterina said:

 

On a more serious note, the trees of India and Nubia biome need repairing; their canopies are much larger than the actual selection box so you don't know where to click. Also, if you build a storehouse under a tree u can't see the storehouse anymore. Please either make the canopy size reasonable or make the selectionbox larger, as well as the model's area larger than the canopy please. 

Sheesh. I've been playing with these trees for over a year and run into no problems.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

51 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

I discovered that the Iberians are short of cavalry

What are they short of?

[Yekaterina]

 

1 minute ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Sheesh. I've been playing with these trees for over a year and run into no problems.

I guess you were playing leisurely by yourself? When I practiced against very hard random AI I also didn't think it was a big problem. But, try to stay calm and search for stems and storehouses in a 1v1 duel when your opponent has 200 points higher rating than you!