Nescio Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) On 09/08/2019 at 1:01 AM, Alexandermb said: Expand Powers of two are presumably easy, and there is nothing wrong with having four or eight semi-circles along the edge of shields; however, keep in mind Hellinistic shield patterns with five, six, or seven semicircles were also quite common; a couple more variants would be nice to have. Edited August 11, 2019 by Nescio ce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted August 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 11/08/2019 at 6:54 PM, Nescio said: Powers of two are presumably easy, and there is nothing wrong with having four or eight semi-circles along the edge of shields; however, keep in mind Hellinistic shield patterns with five, six, or seven semicircles were also quite common; a couple more variants would be nice to have. Expand Sounds reasonable wouldn't mind adding more variants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 11, 2019 Report Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) Reveal hidden contents Or wacky can add some color. I suggested before but someone else doesn't agree. @wackyserious Edited August 11, 2019 by Lion.Kanzen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alexandermb Posted August 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 20/08/2019 at 9:12 AM, Stan` said: @Alexandermb It's done, can you remove the useless files ? https://trac.wildfiregames.com/timeline @fatherbushido did the ForkAD devs fix checkrefs.pl (or write a new script) that handles the unused art files properly ? Expand Having animations re-export committed i can commit this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 20/08/2019 at 12:35 PM, Alexandermb said: Having animations re-export committed i can commit this. Expand I just noticed how noisy the texture are... that's too bad maybe we could have run them through denoising. Fortunately they look good from the distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted August 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 20/08/2019 at 2:43 PM, Stan` said: I just noticed how noisy the texture are... that's too bad maybe we could have run them through denoising. Fortunately they look good from the distance Expand Yeah @Lion.Kanzen noted that too, but textures were taking too much to bake so i reduced bake amount time and the cost was some noise, but as himself said too "it looks okay from distance" Reveal hidden contents Sacrifice a lil bit of quality for keep the laptop alive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted August 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Aspis Blendfile link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EDiPewMdMIEXsS_40JHBaoySd512-uYq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Sorry to say, but the higher resolution shield textures are lost (blur out) due to mipping and anti aliasing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 20/08/2019 at 9:34 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Sorry to say, but the higher resolution shield textures are lost (blur out) due to mipping and anti aliasing. Expand Pics ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 20/08/2019 at 9:35 PM, Stan` said: Pics ? Expand I'll get you some after work. Lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 20/08/2019 at 9:34 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Sorry to say, but the higher resolution shield textures are lost (blur out) due to mipping and anti aliasing. Expand On 20/08/2019 at 9:35 PM, Stan` said: Pics ? Expand On 20/08/2019 at 11:36 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: I'll get you some after work. Lol Expand A major problem is all of the noise/dirt thrown all over everything. Whereas the old shields looked parade-ready, these look like dirt was smeared everywhere and to make it worse, the noise is almost always the same pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 These can be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) Yep. Just some of the patterns need to be bolder, and a lot of the noise/dirt needs removed. You have to be able to see the patterns at standard camera zoom. Right now, it feels like they were made for some kind of Unity-based RPG. Not hating, these are great work. Just offering some opinion for what it's worth. I want the game to look good just like you do. Edited August 21, 2019 by wowgetoffyourcellphone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 6:46 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Yep. Just some of the patterns need to be bolder. You have to be able to see them at standard camera zoom. Right now, it feels like they were made for some kind of Unity-based RPG. Not hating, these are great work. Just offering some opinion for what it's worth. I want the game to look good just like you do. Expand Yes indeed but we talk regulary in private, somethings I mentioned will be remade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Any idea why they all need to be 512x512? Unit body textures are 256x256 (which is plenty). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Yeah the pink ones are just 2x2 and they look splendid ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) Any thoughts about the shield capes? They are a neat detail, but right now have no animations so look like stiff cardboard attacked to the bottom of the aspides. lol Edited August 21, 2019 by wowgetoffyourcellphone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lion.Kanzen Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 7:05 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Expand Bad... But interesting, he must reduce the redish zones. In the texture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 I guess animating them would be nice On 21/08/2019 at 7:05 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Expand Is that old vs new ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 7:08 AM, Stan` said: I guess animating them would be nice Is that old vs new ? Expand Yeah. Old on the left, new on the right. You can see that the new ones are better artistically, but I would say a lot of the old ones are more "readable" than the newer ones. I think the new ones are largely an improvement, but I think many of them could be tweaked to be better from a gameplay camera viewpoint. Part of the problem I think is that the new ones are also 512x512 which get antialiased quite a bit when zoomed out and the details get lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 7:28 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Yeah. Old on the left, new on the right. You can see that the new ones are better artistically, but I would say a lot of the old ones are more "readable" than the newer ones. I think the new ones are largely an improvement, but I think many of them could be tweaked to be better from a gameplay camera viewpoint. Part of the problem I think is that the new ones are also 512x512 which get antialiased quite a bit when zoomed out and the details get lost. Expand Yeah we should resize them down to either 256x256 or 128x128. Probably the former as those shields are quite big about (half the unit without the head) To respect the 'Texel Density' they should be half the texture size of the unit texture. Will probably help with the noise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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