Civ: Germans (Cimbri, Suebians, Goths)

[Seleucids]

I built the latest version and tried the German civ. Here are some feedbacks specific to this civ's design:

• Overall it looks like Britons ++, because it is the same slinger civ, can use the same build order. However, the inclusion of a citizen class infantry clubman and spear cav instead of sword cav makes them better at spamming cavs and fighting counters. 
• Very strong heroes. I worry that Teutobod might be too OP with his speed bonus and extra health. 
• The weaker ram is kind of a joke unit, as it just dies to towers and any enemy army. But this is fine, just don't train it. 
• The champion clubman raider is giga OP - much higher attack than a regular champion swordsman, much faster but lower cost. It is also available since p2 when other civs don't have the appropriate counters. It's slighly lower hack shield does not affect it that much as you would mix them with other infantry melee in an attack. There isn't a single counter to it; you can't even hide in buildings because they hack down CCs in no time. The only unit I can think of is large quantities of spear cav, but not every civ can field that in P2...

Edited 4 hours ago by Seleucids

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31 minutes ago, Seleucids said:

The weaker ram is kind of a joke unit

I believe that it's a nod to Norse Log Ram from Age of Mythology. Now, we just need their voices, too:

 

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1 hour ago, Seleucids said:

The champion clubman raider is giga OP - much higher attack than a regular champion swordsman

Yeah, they have the same damage as Kushite Axemen, -1 Hack resistance, but are faster and cheaper in Metal. Also, available in P2.

They should get lower pierce armor, or cost more metal. The damage is fine if their other stats suffer.

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2 hours ago, Seleucids said:

The champion clubman raider is giga OP - much higher attack than a regular champion swordsman, much faster but lower cost. It is also available since p2 when other civs don't have the appropriate counters. It's slighly lower hack shield does not affect it that much as you would mix them with other infantry melee in an attack. There isn't a single counter to it; you can't even hide in buildings because they hack down CCs in no time. The only unit I can think of is large quantities of spear cav, but not every civ can field that in P2...

Its an Axeman. I welcome this early balance feedback, it helps to make the playtests more serious when we do them.