no, that's actually quite an interesting thing to note @Thalatta I'm sure even you were surprised when you first learnt that the warrior class civilisation did not do weapons training, atleast I was when I heard it from you hahaha.
okay, I agree -8 might be too harsh.. maybe -5% ? I'm not decreasing their damage or resistance because that already happens due to the CC tech they have
I'm just saying, helots, a slave class for most of spartan history, should be inferior to a normal peltast