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2 hours ago, (-_-) said:

Isn’t @Victor Rossi working on Boudica?

You also need to sign the following waiver else none of your work can be used.

 

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Just to let you guys know that I'll have to slow down on this project due to other freelance and classes I've been taking.
Last time I did that I felt bad for not saying anything in advance. I'll be working whenever I can, it's just that my schedule is a little messy right now

 

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On 9/29/2018 at 12:19 PM, (-_-) said:

Isn’t @Victor Rossi working on Boudica?

You also need to sign the following waiver else none of your work can be used.

 

I didn't start the sketching stage. All I have is a folder with references I gathered for the face, clothing, equipment, etc.

@dMAthena I'm not sure if this has any use to you now (16 days later), but I uploaded my references to a drive folder:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1adnPsz_q9tOD8c9z-rqUmr-aBBjiT67X

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5 hours ago, Victor Rossi said:

I didn't start the sketching stage. All I have is a folder with references I gathered for the face, clothing, equipment, etc.

@dMAthena I'm not sure if this has any use to you now (16 days later), but I uploaded my references to a drive folder:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1adnPsz_q9tOD8c9z-rqUmr-aBBjiT67X

You can take Kushites? they are  some  difficult.

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@Lion.Kanzen Which Kushite hero should I take first?
From what I understand, the three heroes are:
Nastasen
Amanirenas
Arakamani

If there's no priority, I'd like to start with Amanirenas :)
Are the ingame models accurate to use as reference? I'm going to do some research anyway, but it's useful to know if I should be basing the portrait on the model.

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19 minutes ago, stanislas69 said:

For Amanirenas Id suggest you take LordGood's drawings as references

Daaamn. He's got talent.

31 minutes ago, Victor Rossi said:

Are the ingame models accurate to use as reference? I'm going to do some research anyway, but it's useful to know if I should be basing the portrait on the model.

Small advice, don't forget to look to others queens like Amanishakheto and Amanitore for historical materials on the dress.

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1 hour ago, stanislas69 said:

For Amanirenas Id suggest you take LordGood's drawings as references

Thanks, I'll take a look at his work.

 

 

1 hour ago, Genava55 said:

Daaamn. He's got talent.

Small advice, don't forget to look to others queens like Amanishakheto and Amanitore for historical materials on the dress.

Nice, I'll look into it :)

Just one last thing. I'm pretty ignorant on the differences in sub-saharan ethnicities, so I'm doing some research on it.
I know it is pretty hard to reconstruct such thing as the average Kushite, but it would be useful to know what to avoid in terms of skin tone and facial features. 
What I've found so far is that the Nuba people closely resemble the ancient Kushites.
And here are the references I've gathered for the face:

Faces.thumb.png.fd16107ef4fd0f7e58683912f5862149.png

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@Victor Rossi, if you do Amanirenas, don't be scared to make her a little chubby :P 

Strabo also says she was blinded in one eye, which is often interpreted/represented as a badass battle scar across that eye. He also says that she was "manly", although that may refer to her taking charge in the war, rather than a literal physical description.

I wonder if she can be made a little chubby in-game (especially around the hips).

Since all the heroes were sitting monarchs, you should try to use either a single or a double uraeus (rearing cobra crown), in combination with or without a golden skullcap. 

refs:

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Lordgood's masterpiece:

amanirenas.jpg.084888e75522778fbf803a69d9372fcd.thumb.jpg.30ed1249184fd37ed7dc793f34e591aa.jpg

 

Others artist interpretations of Amanirenas:

1478246776_21QueenAmanirenasandhersonAkinidadwatchaRomanfortburn.jpg.5044a45bb4a8cf6758512a381b7ca46e.jpg

amanirenas.thumb.jpg.47c8331fb8fa4b8de7a491646f9d972d.jpgAmanirenas.jpg.ae3d4ed86709010e8a0fe69388c98636.jpg

 

Aminitore, from Civ VI

k-berkley-amanitore-color-final-branded.thumb.jpg.7c68c0427d8e14df2af8b6e7aaa30216.jpg

 

k-berkley-amanitore-sketch-compilation.thumb.jpg.1cfdd1f4bcd1f4c024f5837a6d2395d3.jpg74007870_PortraitofqueenTakahatenamunwifeofthe25thdynastyPharaohTaharqaby_leviathaninutero-d8757bd.thumb.png.c9981fad72146b432beb723a6f7a5884.png

1714415162_TempleofMutNapataJebelgebelBarkalB300.thumb.jpg.6cb2ca188b41b89db0a57fb15175fe1c.jpg

 

Queen Amanitore and Queen Amanishakheto (Amanirenas' successors)

 

193659250_KingdomofKushKushitereliefQueenamanitorestrikingherenemieswithaswordfromthepylonoftheliontempleofapedemakatnaqacopy.thumb.jpg.eec565234c6b1fdc26e538639b0e4ab2.jpg

731850911_KingdomofKushKushiteQueensAmanishakheto.thumb.jpg.b8b7b3c1dc1d055019c24ef794ad7594.jpg

463619911_KingdomofKushKushiteroyalladieswomen.thumb.jpg.fdb6e42024c8186d00cefda3f8352a7e.jpg

 

Nastasen and Arakamani:

Spoiler

Nastasen:

422517801_KingdomofKushnapatanperiodstelaofnastaseninscriptiontranslationkushitehieroglyph.thumb.jpg.9d2354ac582479913cfee8502d1598e6.jpg

 

Arakamani:

Relief_Arakamani_Lepsius.png.2cf665289a40c116a45462b73b8f98ab.png

 

Other Meroitic Kings for inspiration:

Tarekeniwal

860983359_ThekingdomofKushkushitereliefcutstonewallcarvingSudanRichardLepsiusaethiopenaethiopiendenk-eroepyr31kingtarekeniwalbowspearofferingnoblemenisisB.thumb.jpg.32ae4c39448f77ce3f826e719c154a6e.jpg

1057401938_ThekingdomofKushkushitereliefcutstonewallcarvingSudanRichardLepsiusaethiopenaethiopienden-iwalexecutingprisonersbattleaxebowspearfullscalearmor.thumb.jpg.c5ba8c14ff0ca75f9d37d5234d9b2964.jpg

 

left to right: Apedemak, Natakamani, Amanitore, a prince

1661805551_ThekingdomofKushkushitereliefcutstonewallcarvingSudanRichardLepsiusaethiopenaethiopienden-kkingnatakamaniqueenamanitoreprincereceivingblessings.thumb.jpg.f29306fa03a146ae91587670165c78fe.jpg

 

2108982202_ThekingdomofKushkushitereliefcutstonewallcarvingSudanRichardLepsiusaethiopenaethiopienden-fMeroepyr10kingqueengoddessisisboundcaptivesprisoners.thumb.jpg.b4cf10b6834a12ed6564a3a790ec0846.jpg

 

Amanakareqerem

133871015_KingdomofkushkushitereliefkingAmanakhareqeremapylontemple200naqa.jpg.08e1810f5529db3eb26883023aa714d2.jpg

 

Arnekhamani

2080596789_KingdomofKushKushitereliefliontempleofapedemakmusawwaratessufra230BCKingArnekhamaniAndrewMcConnell.thumb.jpg.b1c47c12b2e00293377b634ce3324a8b.jpg

 

Meroitic god or king:

1074179936_Thiscopper-alloystatuetteofanunidentifiedKushitekingwasdiscoveredatTaboonArgoIslandwithinthecourtoftheGreatTempleinapitinthelouvre1.thumb.jpg.68135247e2fff165f85ad51fb8eed231.jpg

 

25th Dynasty (Napatan):

990857629_AspeltaandTaharqafacestatueKingdomofKushKushiteKings.thumb.jpg.66f5d4e162e1fcacd7a63886ee85935d.jpg

1218672484_WallpaintingsinthetombofKingTanwetamanishowtheancientKushiteking(nephewofTaharqa)beingledtohisburialwearingKushitecapandureaus(royalcobra)ElKurru.jpg.38dc5fb7cc730e7f97d58a550ac93a8e.jpg

 

Taharqa:

154698165_KingTaharqaNapataGebeljebelbarkalkushkushitepharaohreligiousprocession.thumb.jpg.b4b51b124d3874d1781807412707ed33.jpg

904659284_TaharqaGregoryManchess.thumb.jpg.a035386f99412ddde61a9b2765d640a7.jpg

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Sundiata said:

@Victor Rossi, if you do Amanirenas, don't be scared to make her a little chubby :P 

Strabo also says she was blinded in one eye, which is often interpreted/represented as a badass battle scar across that eye. He also says that she was "manly", although that may refer to her taking charge in the war, rather than a literal physical description.

I wonder if she can be made a little chubby in-game (especially around the hips).

Since all the heroes were sitting monarchs, you should try to use either a single or a double uraeus (rearing cobra crown), in combination with or without a golden skullcap. 

refs:

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Lordgood's masterpiece:

amanirenas.jpg.084888e75522778fbf803a69d9372fcd.thumb.jpg.30ed1249184fd37ed7dc793f34e591aa.jpg

 

Others artist interpretations of Amanirenas:

1478246776_21QueenAmanirenasandhersonAkinidadwatchaRomanfortburn.jpg.5044a45bb4a8cf6758512a381b7ca46e.jpg

amanirenas.thumb.jpg.47c8331fb8fa4b8de7a491646f9d972d.jpgAmanirenas.jpg.ae3d4ed86709010e8a0fe69388c98636.jpg

 

Aminitore, from Civ VI

k-berkley-amanitore-color-final-branded.thumb.jpg.7c68c0427d8e14df2af8b6e7aaa30216.jpg

 

k-berkley-amanitore-sketch-compilation.thumb.jpg.1cfdd1f4bcd1f4c024f5837a6d2395d3.jpg74007870_PortraitofqueenTakahatenamunwifeofthe25thdynastyPharaohTaharqaby_leviathaninutero-d8757bd.thumb.png.c9981fad72146b432beb723a6f7a5884.png

1714415162_TempleofMutNapataJebelgebelBarkalB300.thumb.jpg.6cb2ca188b41b89db0a57fb15175fe1c.jpg

 

Queen Amanitore and Queen Amanishakheto (Amanirenas' successors)

 

193659250_KingdomofKushKushitereliefQueenamanitorestrikingherenemieswithaswordfromthepylonoftheliontempleofapedemakatnaqacopy.thumb.jpg.eec565234c6b1fdc26e538639b0e4ab2.jpg

731850911_KingdomofKushKushiteQueensAmanishakheto.thumb.jpg.b8b7b3c1dc1d055019c24ef794ad7594.jpg

463619911_KingdomofKushKushiteroyalladieswomen.thumb.jpg.fdb6e42024c8186d00cefda3f8352a7e.jpg

 

Nastasen and Arakamani:

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Nastasen:

422517801_KingdomofKushnapatanperiodstelaofnastaseninscriptiontranslationkushitehieroglyph.thumb.jpg.9d2354ac582479913cfee8502d1598e6.jpg

 

Arakamani:

Relief_Arakamani_Lepsius.png.2cf665289a40c116a45462b73b8f98ab.png

 

Other Meroitic Kings for inspiration:

Tarekeniwal

860983359_ThekingdomofKushkushitereliefcutstonewallcarvingSudanRichardLepsiusaethiopenaethiopiendenk-eroepyr31kingtarekeniwalbowspearofferingnoblemenisisB.thumb.jpg.32ae4c39448f77ce3f826e719c154a6e.jpg

1057401938_ThekingdomofKushkushitereliefcutstonewallcarvingSudanRichardLepsiusaethiopenaethiopienden-iwalexecutingprisonersbattleaxebowspearfullscalearmor.thumb.jpg.c5ba8c14ff0ca75f9d37d5234d9b2964.jpg

 

left to right: Apedemak, Natakamani, Amanitore, a prince

1661805551_ThekingdomofKushkushitereliefcutstonewallcarvingSudanRichardLepsiusaethiopenaethiopienden-kkingnatakamaniqueenamanitoreprincereceivingblessings.thumb.jpg.f29306fa03a146ae91587670165c78fe.jpg

 

2108982202_ThekingdomofKushkushitereliefcutstonewallcarvingSudanRichardLepsiusaethiopenaethiopienden-fMeroepyr10kingqueengoddessisisboundcaptivesprisoners.thumb.jpg.b4cf10b6834a12ed6564a3a790ec0846.jpg

 

Amanakareqerem

133871015_KingdomofkushkushitereliefkingAmanakhareqeremapylontemple200naqa.jpg.08e1810f5529db3eb26883023aa714d2.jpg

 

Arnekhamani

2080596789_KingdomofKushKushitereliefliontempleofapedemakmusawwaratessufra230BCKingArnekhamaniAndrewMcConnell.thumb.jpg.b1c47c12b2e00293377b634ce3324a8b.jpg

 

Meroitic god or king:

1074179936_Thiscopper-alloystatuetteofanunidentifiedKushitekingwasdiscoveredatTaboonArgoIslandwithinthecourtoftheGreatTempleinapitinthelouvre1.thumb.jpg.68135247e2fff165f85ad51fb8eed231.jpg

 

25th Dynasty (Napatan):

990857629_AspeltaandTaharqafacestatueKingdomofKushKushiteKings.thumb.jpg.66f5d4e162e1fcacd7a63886ee85935d.jpg

1218672484_WallpaintingsinthetombofKingTanwetamanishowtheancientKushiteking(nephewofTaharqa)beingledtohisburialwearingKushitecapandureaus(royalcobra)ElKurru.jpg.38dc5fb7cc730e7f97d58a550ac93a8e.jpg

 

Taharqa:

154698165_KingTaharqaNapataGebeljebelbarkalkushkushitepharaohreligiousprocession.thumb.jpg.b4b51b124d3874d1781807412707ed33.jpg

904659284_TaharqaGregoryManchess.thumb.jpg.a035386f99412ddde61a9b2765d640a7.jpg

 

 

Wow, that's some really valuable information that will contribute to making a more authentic character instead of a generic face.
Thank you :D

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49 minutes ago, Victor Rossi said:

Just one last thing. I'm pretty ignorant on the differences in sub-saharan ethnicities, so I'm doing some research on it.
I know it is pretty hard to reconstruct such thing as the average Kushite, but it would be useful to know what to avoid in terms of skin tone and facial features. 
What I've found so far is that the Nuba people closely resemble the ancient Kushites.
And here are the references I've gathered for the face:

Those refs are quite decent. Some more South/Southern Sudanese for inspiration:

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067034c6ac0adc95b97b04f5ac84800d--african-tribes-african-men.jpg.9bf8441bf559df9ba0ca4abd65edcdef.jpgDinka-Man.thumb.jpg.899a4a02885d8c56c1cf9c128ec7aa4c.jpgsouth-sudan-17aug16.thumb.png.fc365132da9b8a650ef48ab3e475ca51.pngsouth-sudan.jpg.6ee100e59811a3bcd4296dfbbbd5ff67.jpgtumblr_ojt2tgWVCG1rjomqqo1_r1_540.jpg.57c61487c0cd3cf9cf8d8c314a121fec.jpg

IMG_2617-2.thumb.jpg.b86ef57d34035be4e7eb2013f1b08336.jpgScreen-Shot-2015-07-09-at-8_40.08-AM.png.67e549bcb64efcd52f25dc8f80a98cfb.png28155905_1823802600963840_9001364481539833856_n.thumb.jpg.df706ba3a4a5521f83d295120badd135.jpg

 

Nastasen and Harsiotef were late Napatan rulers, so they offer a nice excuse to go for a lighter skin-tone, similar to modern Nubians/Northern Sudanese:

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egyptian-sailing-men-sailing-a-traditional-felucca-in-aswan-egypt-F13891.thumb.jpg.f511eb982a4e9a2b5e3ceb687920b5f2.jpg

 

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