Nescio Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 11 hours ago, wackyserious said: @Nescio Sorry if it took several months to address this issue, academics and the work on other textures buried the progress here. Some basic Sogdian archers (Re-used existing assets) and a more rural Sardian auxillaries. The advanced (animal pelt vests) could also be used for hillmen infantry if we will add them in the future. Could I use animal pelt vests for basic rank Hyrcanian cavalry? No need to apologize! Besides, A24 won't be released soon. Sardian → Lydian (Sardes is the capital of Lydia). The Anatolian peoples (Mysians, Lydians, Carians, Luwians, Hittites, Cappadocians, etc.) were ethno-linguistically related to each other and culturally quite different from the Iranian peoples (living in Media (Atropatene) and beyond). With hillmen I assume you mean the tribes who gave Xenophon's ten thousand so much trouble, i.e. Armenians (Bronze Age Urartu); though they're not exactly Anatolian, dressing them similarly is fine by me; and I agree hillmen armed with slings, stones, and axes would be a great addition. Feel free to go ahead. Hyrcania was the eastern part of the coastal area between the Caspian Sea and the Alborz mountains (just north of Tehran). To the east lay Parthia proper, with which it often formed a single satrapy. To the north of Parthia lived the Dahae (Seleucid horse archer), a confederacy consisting of three tribes, one of which, the Parni, seized Parthia from the Seleucids and went on to form the Parthian (Arsacid) Empire. To the east of Parthia lay Aria, Bactriana, Sogdiana. All those were Iranian peoples (as were Scythians and Persians) and shouldn't look like Anatolians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 What was difference between Elamites and Persians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AIEND Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 于 2020 年 6 月 1 日上午 11 点 17 分，wackyserious 说道： 从 Europa Barbarorum II 汲取灵感，这些是亚美尼亚、安纳托利亚和伊朗单位的混合体。 Actually one of the things that puzzles me about some mods and game designs including EB2 is that any kind of Persian infantry they make looks like an archer, where the spear always doesn't have a helmet (but may wear a breastplate ), and only a hood, carrying a large shield that is not suitable for hand-to-hand combat. But in reality, the Athenians captured an Assyrian pointed helmet worn by the Persians. Herodotus' book also contains records of Assyrian infantry in the Persian army. Why not make the Persian spearmen into Assyrians What about people like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 The elite Persian archer in the game wears a pointed bronze helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, AIEND said: Actually one of the things that puzzles me about some mods and game designs including EB2 is that any kind of Persian infantry they make looks like an archer, where the spear always doesn't have a helmet (but may wear a breastplate ), and only a hood, carrying a large shield that is not suitable for hand-to-hand combat. But in reality, the Athenians captured an Assyrian pointed helmet worn by the Persians. Herodotus' book also contains records of Assyrian infantry in the Persian army. Why not make the Persian spearmen into Assyrians What about people like that? Because what is described in Herodotus doesn't necessarily apply for the 3rd century BC at the time of the Seleucid empire. EB2 is strict about the material of the time period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIEND Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 7 小时前，Genava55 说： 因为希罗多德所描述的并不一定适用于塞琉古帝国时期的公元前 3 世纪。 EB2对时间段的材料要求严格。 But how did those infantry like archers show that they existed until later? In fact, in the Total War series of games, even in the period of the Parthian Dynasty, they were still portrayed as "Eastern Infantry". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIEND Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 9 小时前，wowgetoffyourcellphone 说： 游戏中的精英波斯弓箭手戴着尖头青铜头盔。 It's weird that archers look more like spearmen and spearmen look more like archers. Edited February 28, 2022 by AIEND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 Kamandar i Kappodakiya, Anatolian Archers Arvadnii Kappodakiya, Anatolian Tribesmen Nezagdar i Kappodakiya, Anatolian Spearmen Mudunup i Kappodakiya, Anatolian Light Cavalry Aswar i Kappodakiya, Anatolian Medium Cavalry Doryphoroi Pontikoi, Pontic Spearmen Uazali, Karian Warband Doryphoroi kata Galaton, Doryphoroi kata Galaton Machairophoroi kata Galaton, Galatianised Swordsmen Phæzæghashkha,North-Western Caucasian Infantry Hayots Ayrudzi, Caucasian Lancers Hai Nizagamartik, Armenian Spearmen Netadzik Ayrudzi, Armenian Horse-Archers Tiknazor, Armenian Bodyguard Dranik Gund,Armenian Royal Guard Aznvakan Aspet, Armenian Cataphracts Payadag i Gurgan, Hyrkanian Hillmen Payadag i Falakhanan, Eastern Slingers Eranag Payadag, Western Iranian Archer-Spearmen Kamandar i Pars, Persian Archers Aryanag Payadag, Eastern Iranian Archer-Spearmen Payadag iAshtan , Iranian Javelinmen Eranag Payadag i Taparan, Iranian Axemen Nezagdar, Iranian Spearmen Payadag i Kardakan, Persian Heavy Spearmen Regalin, Akkadian Heavy Infantry Eranag Aswar i Ashtan, Iranian Javelin Cavalry Eranag Aswar, Iranian Medium Cavalry Aswar i Mad, Median Cavalry Aswar i Khweshawandan, Iranian Heavy Cavalry, Iranian Royal Cavalry Payadag i Balk, Baktrian Tribesmen Aswar i Rakhvad, Arachosian Cavalry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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