LordGood Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Broke a few textures but they're all in one place now at least. I think this is a good jumping off point in terms of color scheme. Small screenie i know but I'm working off my laptop. that also means baking textures takes forever 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Quote that also means baking textures takes forever @LordGood Just ask me, I'll be happy to help. So what's your plan ? Remaking the whole civilization ? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted July 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 lol that's the plan, Stan The state of the pack has the normal maps and spec maps split still. The metopes, if you've noticed, along with all of the rest of the player color are showing up black. I don't know if the metope sculptures are subtle diffuse textures or are purely normal mapped. I could have just completely lost them from the translation from .DDS to .PNG Also as you can see I got plenty of extra room for other textures, I think maybe introducing mud bricks could be interesting for more rural architecture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 What I found the best way to preserve alpha in GIMP is as soon as you open a file with transparency, whether it's a png or a dds, is to separate the alpha map and use it as mask (Click add mask on the layer, and select "alpha layer of the channel or something similar) I don't think they were normal mapped, or at least I think that if they were, the normal map was generated from the diffuse, so its details are still there. Well you have space for banners if needed, maybe tents or something so that their future market have something nice. Maybe one shield or two ? It'd be nice to update the jars paintings, maybe there are some that might be more spartan ? Â Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imarok Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 I looked more closely on the spartan and athen buildings: It seems like some athen buildings use doric columns (hellenic royal stoa, athenian wonder, poritco and gymnasion), while they should use iconic columns. All current spartan buildings seem to use doric columns. Only the current market uses the iconic columns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted July 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Athenians can use doric columns, their most iconic temple is of the doric order lol. And Gimp doesn't open .dds, not without plugins, anyway. I'm not worried about the pottery paintings, since they're so small. though I agree black figure pottery would be a neat change. The only question to me would be whether to give black figure to the spartans or athenians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, LordGood said: Athenians can use doric columns, their most iconic temple is of the doric order lol. And Gimp doesn't open .dds, not without plugins, anyway. I'm not worried about the pottery paintings, since they're so small. though I agree black figure pottery would be a neat change. The only question to me would be whether to give black figure to the spartans or athenians. Which of the civs is the darkest ? Also would be really cool to have a Poseidon statue. Could be used by delenda east too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imarok Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, LordGood said: Athenians can use doric columns, their most iconic temple is of the doric order lol. And Gimp doesn't open .dds, not without plugins, anyway. I'm not worried about the pottery paintings, since they're so small. though I agree black figure pottery would be a neat change. The only question to me would be whether to give black figure to the spartans or athenians. Ouh, I always thought, they use only iconic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Imarok said: Ouh, I always thought, they use only iconic. You mean Ionic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imarok Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Lion.Kanzen said: You mean Ionic? Sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunChleoc Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Autocorrect strikes again? 13 hours ago, LordGood said: Athenians can use doric columns, their most iconic temple is of the doric order lol. If it isn't too much work and won't violate historical accuracy, it could make sense though to give one of them only Doric and the other only Ionic columns to make them more recognizable in the game: Internal visual cohesion of the faction Visual differentiation between the factions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted July 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 It's more work than what justifies the change, the factions ought to be plenty different once I'm through with them. The other issue being that ionic columns are only really read from one direction, so such capitals were usually used for that purpose and supported with the more simple doric columns. ionic columns facing the backs of other ionic columns is awkward and breaks immersion, for me at least. lovely façade columns though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted July 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 houses 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Nice one weird thing though the end of the roof tiles look weird for some reason @LordGood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted July 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 I toned down the normal maps, they were acting a bit buggy as it was. consequence being the end tiles lie flatter than usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted July 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 I think I might let the Macedonians keep the current set, I kind of want to play around with the idea of urbanizing the Athenian buildings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skhorn Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, LordGood said: I think I might let the Macedonians keep the current set, I kind of want to play around with the idea of urbanizing the Athenian buildings What do you mean by urbinizing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted July 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 lol not quite sure myself, stone going higher up the walls to deter theives, smaller higher windows, more shutters to keep out the noise of the city, awnings for pedestrians that sort of thing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Else you could use Roman roofs ? I showed you new tiles I was making on IRC too if you want them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTreePaladin Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 It's so nice to see some differentiation of the Greek architecture. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted July 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Sentry towers I dunno, I'm pretty fond of these tiles. Romans are kind of pinkish, i want a nice red for sparta. the different faded color tiles are nice too. The normal maps are fine, they just got messed up in translation i guess? I can restore it easy enough in the gimp file 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Athenians should use Ionic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted July 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Athenians should use Ionic. if you want to go out of your way to replace all of the doric columns in the athenian set, go for it. I'll do what I can when I roll over the athenian set 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Their set already uses Ionic columns in their cc and temple bro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted July 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Did you read the thread? The point was that there were a few exceptions. If/when I give the Athenians a once-over I'll add/keep ionic columns where they're appropriate. I wasn't making the case that they shouldn't get Ionic columns 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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