Ruins set

[wackyserious]

@LordGood @Enrique @Lion.Kanzen

Ruins should come as set pieces and not as a whole entity, a person can then assemble ruins from the different pieces.

For example, the Lion Gate can be interpreted as something like this (Currently I only have 3 pieces, and not of good quality, textures are dependent on the roman_struct2.dds texture)

Set piece examples:

[Lion.Kanzen]

You have good point, as modder that I'm... So you are right. This can be useful  later for create a whole entity.

I thank  the texture need improved to look older, like was exposed by weather, to rains etc.

[wackyserious]

Here's my current .blend file

ruins.blend

Edited April 28, 2016 by wackyserious

[Lion.Kanzen]

17 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

Here's the my current .blend file

ruins.blend

I'm not in the computer... But you want use this for main game right?

I found the example of was thinking, temple ruins the stone looks very damaged.

 

Yes  will be hard or may be not, I help you with this.

The colosseum have this waters spots.

 

Edited April 28, 2016 by Lion.Kanzen

[wackyserious]

Yes, I also want the main game to have one, we will be using the ones above for Millennium AD to add ruins in game maps.

I'm still thinking on how I can add details to the pieces, maybe adding a plane above the meshes and map moss/vine textures on it.

[Lion.Kanzen]

The moss/vine can work in variations. As you show this the normal structure later we can add more props.

I found this idea about texture by scary stories. In Europe are "haunted"places like "abandoned abbeys".

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Make sure to have AO maps to make them fit with other structure.  This is a great topic.

[roofridder]

@Lion.Kanzen The pictures that you posted of those ruins and the coloseum are from now, 0ad takes place when they were not so much damaged and maybe just a few years destroyed. So a relatively 'new' ruin wouldnt be that strange.

[LordGood]

Bronze age ruins would be 1-3k years old in classical and hellenistic times. Even early classical/archaic greek buildings would be 300-700 years old

Unless properly kept or solidly built, they will be in pretty bad shape

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Bronze age (Minoans/Mycenaeans) end in 1100 BC. Classical Age starts at 500 BC (so, 600 years). But you are right, the ruins would still be pretty substantial and ruined.

[wackyserious]

What about deteriorated/abandoned structures of the current period?

I used it in a modified version of Cycladic Archipelago to add abandoned structures on some parts of the islands. (On one of the matches, I managed to capture and garrison the tower before the AI started expanding, so when the AI colonized the island, the southern part of the island was under my control)

Edited April 29, 2016 by wackyserious

[Lion.Kanzen]

Must the same structure but missing roof, or texture stone more deteriorated.

in 3D art of all games ( RTS, RPGs)  aren't plenty examples only more in detailed games with high poly.

[Lion.Kanzen]

10 hours ago, roofridder said:

@Lion.Kanzen The pictures that you posted of those ruins and the coloseum are from now, 0ad takes place when they were not so much damaged and maybe just a few years destroyed. So a relatively 'new' ruin wouldnt be that strange.

You even thing the actual ruins are try to be preserved now than 300 years ago.

they are example, the ruins not need millenniums to be deteriorated. Even new building under construction can shoe this damage by water.

sorry for late reply.

This is more recent, a factory but look like...

Edited April 29, 2016 by Lion.Kanzen

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

The current ruin objects are good start!

Keep going with it. Ruined Greek temples. Ruined Persian temples. etc.

 

Burned out/destroyed versions of some buildings.

 

Don't forget AO maps.

Edited May 3, 2016 by wowgetoffyourcellphone

[Lion.Kanzen]

17 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

The current ruin objects are good start!

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Burned out/destroyed versions of some buildings.

 

 

The ruins need have texture and  prop variety that depends by environment

desert dust, moss texturing by Britain weather, sea weather  damage ( by the marine salt).

[Lion.Kanzen]

 

the other  I by human interactivity in this case destroy, but even vandalism is realistic form, in Roman times they like using primitive graffiti with some connotations.

Edited May 3, 2016 by Lion.Kanzen

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

13 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

The ruins need have texture and  prop variety that depends by environment

desert dust, moss texturing by Britain weather, sea weather  damage ( by the marine salt).

Just make some with the different civ building textures. Persians Ptol and Carths textures would be good for desert, etc.

[Lion.Kanzen]

4 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Just make some with the different civ building textures. Persians Ptol and Carths textures would be good for desert, etc.

Yeah basically modding.

[Lion.Kanzen]

About Romans... And another graffiti cultures.

[av93]

On 29/4/2016 at 6:03 AM, wackyserious said:

What about deteriorated/abandoned structures of the current period?

I used it in a modified version of Cycladic Archipelago to add abandoned structures on some parts of the islands. (On one of the matches, I managed to capture and garrison the tower before the AI started expanding, so when the AI colonized the island, the southern part of the island was under my control)

It reminds me the ruins of cinematic of the first age of empires. Nostalgia factor

[Lion.Kanzen]

@av93

Spoiler

 

Vale la pena verlo y esa música...

It's nice to see that scene many times and that music...

[wackyserious]

This happened when I added the Rome AO, normal and spec maps.. Also, why does my mesh have textures/faces inside it?

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

AO maps need 2nd set of UVs exported with mesh. Also, each mesh need to generate its own AO map in Blender first.

 

Edited May 4, 2016 by wowgetoffyourcellphone

[wackyserious]

I'll have to read about that, I'm fairly new to 3d modeling..

[Loki1950]

And the reason they need that second UV map that AO stands for ambient occlusion that is the shadows from the ambient light falling on the object so even adding a brick to a mesh changes the shadows.There should lots of video tutorials on bakeing AO maps with blender on YouTube and IIRC Enrique posted one here on the forums a while ago

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