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Proposed Changes: A. Practice Range Old Phase: Town (II) New Phase: Village (I) B. Rice Paddies Old Cost: 50 sec, 100 wood New Cost: 40 sec, 80 wood Females food.rice gather rate reduced from 0.6 to 0.5 (like other females) Main benefit is that you can cram more rice paddies into a smaller space C. Crossbowmen Old RepeatTime: 3000 ms New RepeatTime: 2000 ms Brings their DPS closer to Slingers and Javelineers Anything else? EDIT: Added Crossbowmen

I can see moving the Practice Range to Village phase just in case the player wants to go heavy ranged infantry early (we like more choice)? In most replays I've seen though, it seems like players don't build a barracks or stable until Phase 2, but allowing them to build the range in village might allow for some unorthodox strategy we can't think of yet.

A weapon, in an historically themed strategy game. Do you really confuse the default cursor with an attack cursor?

Not bad. Which one does @Freagarach want?

Default cursor is an arrowhead/spearhead, just like the old one (which was a flint arrowhead).

See: Delenda Est. lol

Pretty much what I gave to the Han champion swordsman.

I think there can be ways to keep all of the basics, but then add differentiation on top of it. So, for instance, there would be all of the same basic Forge techs for every civ, but each civ gets 1 additional unique Forge tech. The Han's could be "Differential Quenching" (not implemented). The Macedonians/Ptolemies/Seleucids could get the "Sarissa." Iberians get "Toledo Steel." Mauryas get "Iron Elephant Armor" (this one visually upgrades their war elephants to the armored variety). Persians get "Recurved Bows." Each Fortress functions pretty much the same, but each civ can have up to 2 unique military techs, usually researched at the Fortress. (I would count the Han "poison" techs as 1 since what they do is simply split the "Will to Fight" tech in half). For Spartans, they research them at the Syssition. 1 "minor" special building and 1 "major" special building for each civ. Persians: Ice House (minor), Tachara (major) Han: Laozigate (minor), Academy (major) Athenians: blah blah, and on down the line Each civ can have up to 2 unique eco techs. Each civ must take away 1 standard eco tech if they have 2 unique eco techs. Each civ can have 1 unique "upgrade" feature. Spartans: upgrade individual Spartiates to Olympic Champions, which are stronger and faster than regular Spartiates Macedonians: upgrade individual Barracks to "Royal Barracks" which trains soldiers at the elite rank Persians: upgrade the Tachara to trickle a desired resource, unlocked with the "Satrapy Tribute" tech Han: upgrade 1 defense tower to the "Great Tower" Romans: upgrade 1 ballista into a "Great Ballista" So, make the civs unique, within a standardized framework.

Liu Bang did Han Xin dirty, man. Shame. Discard his best general to intrigue when he was no use to him.

This "Saka" helmet would work well for the Scythian/Dahae/Parthian units (Persians) already in the game (and potential Scythians civ as well).

I wonder how to differentiate: Scythians Xiongnu Xianbei Huns

Could be a Hun, could be a Sarmatian under Hunnish dominion. Either way, cool reference. I like this guy's polearm (accurate?), his red coat, and the fact that the coat's collar shields his neck.

Indeed. I think Gauls should get a cheap/trash archer that does not promote beyond Basic rank. These are the "hunters" that Vercingetorix called to arms during the Gallic War against Caesar. For Britons, I think their Champion Chariot should be available 1 phase earlier and have this feature from DE:

I think the Gauls should get a citizen-soldier Swordsman and make that their starting melee infantry. Would differentiate them more from the Britons, whose starting melee infantry would be the spearman.

They don't look bad. And as you said, the capes help them blend better. Used sparingly, I see no reason to not keep them.

Already has a subtle emboss effect. I'll see what embed looks like.

Scythian and Xiongnu patterns would be nice, as I'm gonna pivot toward trying to convince folks that a "nomads" alpha would be a great addition (Alpha 28 maybe). Also, Mauryas don't have very many shield patterns. Would be nice to improve the look of the Mauryas. German shields would be nice for Delenda Est. Need distinct Suebian and Gothic patterns.

If you guys come up with new values (costs, stats, etc.) without removing anything already committed, then it's more likely to make it in. Y'all wanted more uniqueness to the civs. Here you go. Don't rip it down to a generic mediocre civ when you have the chance to play something unique. Use it as an example of how civs can be unique, but balanced. Also as an example of uniqueness for the other civs to eventually blaze their own unique trail too.

Just a nice simple "civ" emblem for @Freagarach

I can see reducing their cost to maybe 75 or 80 wood because of their size and fewer gatherers. But keep in mind that their farmstead techs civ-specific and are more effective, at +25% farming rate each instead of the +20% that the standard techs have.

There's a whole thread about this with viable unit roster additions suggested. The Practice Range/Archery Range would be viable for all civs, as I demonstrated in that thread. The Han, however, do have a huge variety of units already so having a Practice Range can be justified. How does it nerf eco? How does it nerf early defense? You can train archers from your CC in village phase and melee troops from the barracks if you wish. Then go heavy ranged troops in Town once you build the Practice Range.