Nescio Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 9:14 AM, azayrahmad said: About the icons, my absolute favorite is unit cards from Rome II Total War: It has 'ancient pottery' aesthetic I like and the mini icons on top can tell much about the unit in so little space. Although in 0 A.D unit icons are half Total War's size, so hopefully you can still make them visible in such little space. Expand Pottery-like drawings won't happen, but my current idea is to overlay weapon icons on top of the unit portrait, e.g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azayrahmad Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 9:24 AM, Nescio said: Pottery-like drawings won't happen, but my current idea is to overlay weapon icons on top of the unit portrait, e.g. Expand Of course lol, I just want to show the efficiency of weapon icon there for inspiration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) On 17/08/2019 at 9:30 AM, azayrahmad said: Of course lol, I just want to show the efficiency of weapon icon there for inspiration. Expand Yeah, I agree it can make it easier to identify unit types and it's worth trying it out; but to do so, I first need appropiate icons for all weapon types (currently ten in my mod). [EDIT]: In game it would look like this: Reveal hidden contents It could probably be clearer. Edited August 17, 2019 by Nescio gui mock-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Atlas should be have more poses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 9:14 AM, azayrahmad said: About the icons, my absolute favorite is unit cards from Rome II Total War: It has 'ancient pottery' aesthetic I like and the mini icons on top can tell much about the unit in so little space. Although in 0 A.D unit icons are half Total War's size, so hopefully you can still make them visible in such little space. Expand I liked the idea of these, but hated them in practice. I know what they were going for, the red fire pottery, which is a pretty cool callback. But they were hard to tell apart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 8:36 AM, Lion.Kanzen said: Yes I can split the background from the rest. The weapon you needs is missing in the repository? I make it from scratch , yes I can. Take a while. Even I'm planning make a new variety of icons for modders. Expand It would also be nice to have the Roman numerals from the phase icons (i, ii, iii, iv) with a transparent background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) On 17/08/2019 at 8:30 PM, Nescio said: It would also be nice to have the Roman numerals from the phase icons (i, ii, iii, iv) with a transparent background. Expand I started to drawing the Kopis. Reveal hidden contents This serve as guide, now to start to work in pc digitilazation like I did with archery range and sentry tower. Edited August 17, 2019 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted August 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 9:15 PM, Lion.Kanzen said: I started to drawing the Kopis. Reveal hidden contents This serve as guide, now to start to work in pc digitilazation like I did with archery range and sentry tower. Expand That looks promising! To summarize what I'd like to have (yes, the list has grown): twelve Roman numerals: i, ii, iii, iv, v, vi, vii, viii, ix, x, xi, xii six melee weapons: pike, spear, gladius/xiphos/sword, falcata/kopis/sabre, sagaris/axe, mace six ranged weapons: javelin, bow-and-arrow, crossbow, sling, staff sling, throwing axe six unit categories: infantry, cavalry, camelry, chariotry, elephantry, artillery (maybe chess-like?) six resources: bricks, charcoal, cheese, fish (cursor), fruit (olives?), time (clock) PNG, 128×128 pixels, transparent background. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted August 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 0abc updated, six new selection shapes: melee infantry: 128×128 circle (unchanged) melee camel, cavalry, elephant: 128×256 ellipse (new) ranged: pentagon (new) woman, slave, fishing boat: hexagon (new) trader, merchant ship: rhombus plus: healer (unchanged) star: hero (unchanged) rounded rectangle: catafalque (new) also new but unused: octagon, dodecagon Reveal hidden contents 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted August 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 0abc updated, reverted buildable mercenary camps and created numbered gather technology icons: 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Those icons are nice ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) I'd put at least a 1 pixel black stroke around the numerals. It would also be nice if the numerals were a separate texture that could be overlaid on the tech portrait by the ui. Perhaps by a new line in the tech files. Edited August 21, 2019 by wowgetoffyourcellphone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted August 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 5:28 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: I'd put at least a 1 pixel black stroke around the numerals. Expand Unfortunately I don't know how to do that; my graphical skills are rather limited; creating those numerals in GIMP was already hard enough for me; defining geometrical shapes in a svg file is much easier. Anyway, feel free to improve them: On 21/08/2019 at 5:28 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: It would also be nice if the numerals were a separate texture that could be overlaid on the tech portrait by the ui. Perhaps by a new line in the tech files. Expand Yeah, that's the idea, eventually, which is also why I requested icons with a transparent background. The portraits in the public folder are useless to me, because they have a background. For entities the top left quadrant is used for the rank icon and the top right quadrant for the upgrade icon. I intend to overlay a weapon icon in the bottom left quadrant. Understanding and tweaking the GUI js files is not always easy, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 @Nescio like this ? Reveal hidden contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted August 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 That's quick! How did you do that? That shadow is fancy, but there are some weird pixels to the left of the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 6:07 PM, Nescio said: Understanding and tweaking the GUI js files is not always easy, though. Expand God's honest truth right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Step 1: Have a pc... Joke, select by color. Reveal hidden contents Step 2: Ctrl + I for invert selection from alpha to the whole letter (Fast way if they are multiple colors) Step 3: Filters > Light and Shadows > Xach Effect: Reveal hidden contents Here the values; Reveal hidden contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 6:13 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: God's honest truth right there. Expand The team needs to consider that. The maximum I could modify was the textures of the interface. I intended to change the color scheme, but there were so many files almost repeated about that aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted August 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Thanks for the tutorial! I managed to produce this: Unfortunately there is still something ugly going on around the borders. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 6:35 PM, Nescio said: Thanks for the tutorial! I managed to produce this: Unfortunately there is still something ugly going on around the borders. Any suggestions? Expand Because of this: Reveal hidden contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Starting with the poor composition and limited to a much lower resolution. I'm not surprised. It's not your fault. I imagine you want to imitate the effect of AoE 3 remember that this interface is different in proportions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 6:07 PM, Nescio said: Unfortunately I don't know how to do that; my graphical skills are rather limited; creating those numerals in GIMP was already hard enough for me; defining geometrical shapes in a svg file is much easier. Anyway, feel free to improve them: Expand You could have made them in Inkscape and then exported them as PNG ? I also believe it can import SVG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted August 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 On 21/08/2019 at 6:39 PM, Lion.Kanzen said: Starting with the poor composition and limited to a much lower resolution. Expand Do you mean working at a high size (e.g. 1024×1024) and then downsizing (e.g. to 128×128)? Here's the result: Reveal hidden contents Better? On 21/08/2019 at 6:48 PM, Stan` said: You could have made them in Inkscape and then exported them as PNG ? I also believe it can import SVG Expand That's what I did when creating those new selection markers on Monday (above). But those don't need shadows, portraits do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) On 21/08/2019 at 7:19 PM, Nescio said: Do you mean working at a high size (e.g. 1024×1024) and then downsizing (e.g. to 128×128)? Here's the result: Reveal hidden contents Better? That's what I did when creating those new selection markers on Monday (above). But those don't need shadows, portraits do. Expand Several things. This is from my own experience, plus my university studies. Many elements at such a small size can overload an image making it difficult for the mind to separate it in part. Can be confusing for some users. You have to look for simplicity above all. For that reason the composition and where you place the elements is important, you must try to place them in different positions to take advantage of the space in a cohorent way. They dissented in such a way that they left a black onsobra space in the icons in the background. Another thing that I know by reading and studying this interface, which I published in this forum. It's that this interface is bigger, consumes more space on screen, so their icons are also bigger to ours and have another space. Edited August 21, 2019 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted August 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Unfortunately I'm mystified by your answer. Most portraits are 128×128 pixels. The GUI displays them as 64×64 portraits in the tooltip and 32×32 icons on the right selection panel. One quadrant is 16×16 pixels. In the I guess the `gui.scale = 2.0` is applied afterwards, i.e. 128→16→32. Anyway, the numeral with shadow (viii) actually looks worse in the tech tree than the simple one I made initially (iii): Reveal hidden contents So I suppose I should keep it simple and leave making portraits with shadows to more experienced people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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