wackyserious Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 A baseline for the integration and visualization of the ancient Semites in the game Work in progress Please post useful references about ancient Semitic clothing and military equipment here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Mostly are there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted May 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2017 On 5/15/2017 at 0:33 PM, wackyserious said: Preview - Judean Slingers Texture files Reveal hidden contents Changelog Reduced veins in the arm area Removed the skirt edge experiment which made it look like a glitch (Replaced it with dark grey to emulate edge/shadow (done the same with the tunic sleeves) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) Judean can use a similar clothes Edited May 20, 2017 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted May 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) The unit actor uses the pouch prop created by Stan which was posted at the Hellenic texture overhaul topic. Textures (WIP) Spoiler Edited May 21, 2017 by wackyserious 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Me gusta. @LordGood @Pureon if you read this. Please take a look of wackyserious work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 Thanks for using the pouch @wackyserious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lion.Kanzen Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 @stanislas69 now you can review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 @Lion.Kanzen I made the pouch so I cannot autoreveview myself. Priority for now is getting every civ their buildings. I'm note sure for which faction they would be. We'll see with @LordGood when we are done with our tasks. Reviewing those is planned at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Ok, but dong forget this. km working in the icons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 I found more information, based in the period of Hellenization in Judea and Israel, if you are studying the bible, you know in this time Judean don't like his neighbors the Samaritans. https://books.google.hn/books?id=YAgZUPT6CusC&pg=PA170&lpg=PA170&dq=samaritans+seleucid&source=bl&ots=ENRTN1cSIG&sig=Ox7eUYShQ-h0bn6C70mOf9Z125g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZqc3f08HYAhVI4yYKHfW1CMoQ6AEIKTAB#v=onepage&q=samaritans seleucid&f=false Sorry if its image, but you know how is the results of Google search engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 5, 2018 Report Share Posted January 5, 2018 Other point is the rivalry and the hated for Seleucid's rule and the emerging power of Judeans and the Seleucid war for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted August 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Going for native style visuals for the Judean Slinger. On 5/15/2017 at 12:33 PM, wackyserious said: Preview - Judean Slingers Texture files Reveal hidden contents Changelog Reduced veins in the arm area Removed the skirt edge experiment which made it look like a glitch (Replaced it with dark grey to emulate edge/shadow (done the same with the tunic sleeves) To be committed if there are no more objections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted August 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Thoughts on this concept for the elite rank Judean slinger? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted August 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 It seems fine with most, committing it right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
av93 Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Finally, ptolo and seleu havent been done for years. I think camel archers needs more variations? Idr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Actually I doubt slingers would have had helmets or body armour. Perhaps you could differentiate the ranks by the clothes? Dyes were very expensive, so perhaps basic a simple tunic, advanced one with one or two thin coloured stripes, elite with multiple. Also, perhaps they should have sleeveless tunics but with cloaks and a cloth to hold stones, as suggested by this image taken from Duncan Head (1982) Armies of the Macedonian and Punic Wars 359 BC to 146 BC. (He doesn't quote sources so it's unclear what is fact and what fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted August 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Opted for an ethnic approach in appearance for the Semitic units similar to DE. On 1/31/2019 at 1:00 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Regarding Hellenization, I'd think the rank and file soldier would probably be less Hellenized than the elite guard and noble class, but that's probably just me wanting more ethnicity shown in the units and making excuses. On 1/31/2019 at 1:12 AM, Sundiata said: I honestly think you're right. Hellenization was profound and far reaching across the Middle East, but I often think it's a bit exaggerated with regard to the indigenous cultures and even states that coexisted with them. I too would like to see some more representation for these types of local units. I think Hellenization was concentrated in important centres (like Petra for example), but nomads be nomads and Bedouins are and always have been fiercely independent. The counterparts of the people of Petra would have probably scuffed at the Greek tunics of their urbanite cousins. Hellenic tunic became heavily used in most of Successor factions as it was introduced in the game. Again, I opted for padded cloth to solidify the design with the native pikemen. The Jewish population, I believe was familiar with it as both the Achaemenids and the Egyptians used them. Also, to match the design with the Greek slinger units which use quilted armor at elite rank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted August 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Off topic. I am planning to create a Judean faction mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, wackyserious said: Off topic. I am planning to create a Judean faction mod. Judean-Idumeans? They have king herod and anothers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted August 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Hasmonean, I was thinking of the Maccabean Revolt. It could expand to the Herodian dynasty, I think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
av93 Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 Arab skirmishers are the last unit TBD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 3, 2019 Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 hours ago, wackyserious said: Hasmonean, I was thinking of the Maccabean Revolt. It could expand to the Herodian dynasty, I think. I'm thiking even in Bar_Kokhba_revolt crushed by Hadrian. Maccabeans is a great time for jews, because they faced Antiochus IV Epiphanes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiochus_IV_Epiphanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted August 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, av93 said: Arab skirmishers are the last unit TBD? Yeah, still deciding if we will use the turban prop from Millennium AD or create a new mesh for it. Arab javelineer will also have native visuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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