===[COMMITTED]=== Achaemenid Siege

[Lion.Kanzen]

Just now, LordGood said:

I think its not possible to have a single entity have two different types of attack.

by now... secondary attack maybe?

[Stan`]

Not yet, but soon maybe http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/252

[Lion.Kanzen]

54 minutes ago, stanislas69 said:

Not yet, but soon maybe http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/252

is my wish list feature.

[Stan`]

[Eraser]

I was always wondering since I saw the angle this siege machine hits: what about if the wall is bigger than the hitting angle?

Then this machine's size might have been truly enormous to hit most structures. More or less like the size of a siege tower.

[Hemachandra]

I wonder if the developers are planning to expand the variety of siege weapons for the Persians? As far as I know, there were also buildings without a tower. This could be a cheaper version.

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Edited October 14, 2023 by Hemachandra

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Also, Persians did have access to catapults. The inhabitants of the Persian city of Tyre famously used many types of catapults and bolt shooters against the attacking Macedonians. Their defense was so dogged, they angered Alexander so much that when he finally took the city he had all of its citizens enslaved or killed.

[real_tabasco_sauce]

I think adding catas and bolts would have to come with some kind of nerf because then there would basically be nothing the civ can't do.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

31 minutes ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

I think adding catas and bolts would have to come with some kind of nerf because then there would basically be nothing the civ can't do.

Well, they have no swordsmen or slingers. 

[real_tabasco_sauce]

true, but their cavalry can cover so many bases better than swordsmen and slingers. Its just such a strong mid game and late game civ, i'd hesitate to add the additional capabilities.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

1 minute ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

true, but their cavalry can cover so many bases better than swordsmen and slingers. Its just such a strong mid game and late game civ, i'd hesitate to add the additional capabilities.

Well, yeah, I also believe that a nerf to their infantry could come with it. Even with their max population bonus, I don't get the feeling of giant armies from the Persians, Mauryas, and Han, so that's another thing we could look at.

[alre]

On 14/10/2023 at 8:45 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Well, yeah, I also believe that a nerf to their infantry could come with it. Even with their max population bonus, I don't get the feeling of giant armies from the Persians, Mauryas, and Han, so that's another thing we could look at.

what do you mean? huge ensembles of archers can be pretty effective and really bring the feeling of a giant army (also quite brittle, because when they don't snipe, archers pretty much suck).

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

18 minutes ago, alre said:

what do you mean? huge ensembles of archers can be pretty effective and really bring the feeling of a giant army (also quite brittle, because when they don't snipe, archers pretty much suck).

If you have 60 archers and the Persian enemy also has 60 archers, then no, they don't seem like a large intimidating force.

[Genava55]

Is there any news on this?

https://code.wildfiregames.com/D368

https://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/252

[Lion.Kanzen]

On 14/10/2023 at 11:33 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Also, Persians did have access to catapults. The inhabitants of the Persian city of Tyre famously used many types of catapults and bolt shooters against the attacking Macedonians. Their defense was so dogged, they angered Alexander so much that when he finally took the city he had all of its citizens enslaved or killed.

What kind of catapults?

More primitive or the same as the Greek ones?