0 A.D. Is Wasting Its Potential !

[Grautvornix]

In 0AD 0.28 english version says indeed Scenario editor (from within the game):

And so does Atlas itself:

@ObelixAre you on a different version or language?

 

[Obelix]

18 hours ago, Thalatta said:

23 hours ago, Obelix said:

My Windows menu entry's called 'Map editor'!

That's weird... I'm on Win 11, game is 0.28.0 a2cae.

Same here! But I was unclear, I mean the Windows Start menu folder "0 A.D. Empires Ascendant" with the entries "0 A.D.", "Open logs folder", "Web site" and "Map editor".

EDIT:

18 hours ago, Grautvornix said:

@ObelixAre you on a different version or language?

My Windows is set to de_DE, my installation should be en_US by default.

Edited October 10 by Obelix
hadn't see Grautvornix post early enough

[Thalatta]

19 minutes ago, Obelix said:

I mean the Windows Start menu folder "0 A.D. Empires Ascendant" with the entries "0 A.D.", "Open logs folder", "Web site" and "Map editor".

Ahh, I've never used that . Still when pressed, Atlas opens (I guess it should be said that's its actual name, since the "Scenario Editor" part seems just descriptive).

Unrelated: you (and others) have told me to create PRs, but my New Pull Request button is disabled. I created Issues instead (for now).

Edited October 10 by Thalatta

[Thalatta]

23 minutes ago, Supermoon said:

Hopefully you can figure out the PR issue soon.

I managed a few days ago, I'll mention it after doing another one to completely address one of my Issues, but have not gotten around it yet.

[Bravado2020]

I agree that this game is wasting potential but also the in game online community isn't what it once was at least for me, every game I've been a part of online now always has someone using profanity or just being a fool in general, I am very intrigued to see what scenario's and campaigns you guys come up with, i may even try my hand at some myself but i agree the Atlas Editor good as it is could use some improvements.

[lilypoppy]

3 hours ago, Bravado2020 said:

I agree that this game is wasting potential but also the in game online community isn't what it once was at least for me, every game I've been a part of online now always has someone using profanity or just being a fool in general, I am very intrigued to see what scenario's and campaigns you guys come up with, i may even try my hand at some myself but i agree the Atlas Editor good as it is could use some improvements.

@Bravado2020

Hi here is my project !

https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/170017-devlog-burning-heart-a-narrative-campaign-for-0-ad/#comment-762999

[Nicolaus_von_Kues]

7 hours ago, Bravado2020 said:

e I've been a part of online now always has someone using profanity or just being a fool in general

Society is in decline and Generation Z is generally irreverent.

People are really crazy lately.

[Gurken Khan]

5 hours ago, Nicolaus_von_Kues said:

Society is in decline and Generation Z is generally irreverent.

Quote

The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age.

Socrates agrees.

[Thalatta]

On 12/09/2026 at 11:24 AM, Obelix said:

I really get sad when reading thread titles like this one and replies seconding it. IMO saying an open source software project 'is wasting its potential!' is discrediting the work of the main developers and the hundreds of contributors who are all doing it voluntarily in their free-time.

I see it as the exact opposite: so many think the game is wasting its potential because it's painful to see that all the amazing work the devs have done (and I emphasise that before what's coming) is being used to cater an unrepresentative, yet habitué, group that wants a rushed game that's 3 times faster than the already competitive StarCraft II (production and research times as reference), and even use mods to remove all the nice graphics to have an advantage at it. How can those who appreciate history, graphics and good design in general not find that just ridiculous and sad? Last week in the challenge thread I read yet another example, where someone posted they don't play anymore because of the 100 pop in 7 mins, which is completely understandable (no matter those who react with a little confused face) since the game has been described here as "the Fastest Click Wins", and, again, a crushing majority of those who play have absolute zero interest in any of this stuff (well over 95%, since, for AoE2 at least, 80% are those who have played at least one MP match, and 90-95% those who do it regularly), but echo chambers are one hell of a drug (as is Redbull along those tryharder APMs). What is even more baffling still is that those who often make claims on what this game is supposed to be constantly contradict the Project Overview and The Vision of 0 A.D. documents (which, since I'm at it already, include the statement "strong emphasis on historical accuracy"). Just to quote the latter: "We need to keep our guard up and avoid these pitfalls:", the first point being "Fastest click wins". I'm really sorry, but your guard has been downed, breached and obliterated long ago then.

 

15 hours ago, Bravado2020 said:

I agree that this game is wasting potential but also the in game online community isn't what it once was at least for me, every game I've been a part of online now always has someone using profanity or just being a fool in general

Personally I see it as a symptom of the problem, I do wonder if by having SC2 speeds or similar those types would leave and retreat in disgust back to their mom's basements where they belong, along with (re)gaining more thoughtful players (I've even proposed to have "Normal" and "Competitive" Presets not to be so extreme, to try to keep all these players). At least I hope with your roleplaying community you imagine 0 A.D. as is should have been  (again, according to its own foundational documents).