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Should shipwrecks be gatherable only by merchantmen?  

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  1. 1. Should shipwrecks be gatherable only by merchantmen?

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Currently treasures from shipwrecks can only be collected by merchantmen. Do you think we should keep that restriction or get rid of it?

It could be changed to make all ships able to do this or even all units that can reach it; after all there's been plenty of incidents where ships that ran ashore were plundered by people on foot.

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I absolutely agree. There are some maps with very small bodies of water and I have to train a stinking merchant vessel just to get a shipwreck on the shore, after that the boat is useless. The merchant boat only mechanic is not realistic and it does not make gameplay any better so I vote we kick it.

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According to my experience, shipwrecks ashore can already be gathered plundered by pedestrians/cavalry. Difference is only if the wreck is placed off the coastline and it cannot be reached by land forces. 

I do like the proposal to extend the wreck collection capability to other ships, but not to all ships: I would propose limiting it to merchant vessels and fishing boats, possibly scout ships just to make thinks a bit more interesting:

  • Fishing boats are available in the first phase so this is an option.
  • Scout ships might not always be built as they have comparatively low value in battle hence treasure hunt capability could increase their use.
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18 minutes ago, Grautvornix said:

According to my experience, shipwrecks ashore can already be gathered plundered by pedestrians/cavalry.

Really? I believe to remember not being able to. Maybe someone who knows the code can chime in.

Frankly I don't like the idea of combat ships not being able to pick stuff from the water. By what rationale? How would that be relayed to the player? Just so that scouting ships have an extra use doesn't convince me. And I also don't wanna scout with fishing boats or send them ~halfway across the map to collect something.

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The current treasure gathering restriction for boats limiting it to only Merchant Ships is a legacy from time before the inclusion of the trading feature. It basically gave them a function in-game while trading was being developed. There's no "logical" reason other ships can't gather treasures other than this. 

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1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

The current treasure gathering restriction for boats limiting it to only Merchant Ships is a legacy from time before the inclusion of the trading feature. It basically gave them a function in-game while trading was being developed. There's no "logical" reason other ships can't gather treasures other than this. 

This.

Include other ships.

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I'm for enabling all economic and military ships (maybe except fire ships) to collect the treasures. Champions and even heroes can do so too on land.

By the way, whether a unit can or cannot collect treasures is determined by the XML tag "<TreasureCollector>" (therefore really easy to change.

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On 19/10/2024 at 4:34 PM, Vantha said:

I'm for enabling all economic and military ships (maybe except fire ships) to collect the treasures. Champions and even heroes can do so too on land.

By the way, whether a unit can or cannot collect treasures is determined by the XML tag "<TreasureCollector>" (therefore really easy to change.

So if we're in agtement, a PR?

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38 minutes ago, Gurken Khan said:

What about dogs and goats? (I have no idea if livestock would be able to pick up treasures without that tag.)

That's what I was going to say, but I never tried it.

There was a time when the goats were used for exploring...

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7 hours ago, Gurken Khan said:

What about dogs and goats? (I have no idea if livestock would be able to pick up treasures without that tag.)

Animals need this tag too, but won't be affected by this change. What we do is edit the tag in template_unit_ship, the new value will automatically be inherited by all its children templates, their children templates, and so on (i.e. exclusively all ships). And then we only need to disable the tag for some specific types of ships.

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