ShadowOfHassen

Would someone do me a favor and say something obnoxously rude in an issue on the encylopedia repo: https://gitea.itms.ovh/PoppaSmurf/historyencylopedia I want to see if I can delete a post as a moderator.

I can confirm that collaboration works. PoppaSmurf has made ShadowOfHassen a collaborator to the new encyclopedia repository. I'd like to figure out why I can't sync changes though.

I have been wanting this a long time. I want to give two votes for the project, one with my ShadowOfHassen account and another with my PoppaSmurf account I got on the gitea. (https://gitea.itms.ovh/PoppaSmurf ) I PMED for a password, but I couldn't wait. Account creation worked, and then I created a repository (which I don't think average people should be able to do.) When I tried to upload files using vscodium as a GUI front end to new repo however, I got this error: " > git pull --tags origin main fatal: couldn't find remote ref main " I also was unable to fork 0 A.D. I really hope this works out! I'll be testing this!

I'm sorry. I had no idea what you just said.

If you want a good but solid intro into some Hun history and culture, try the series from Classical Stuff You Should Know: https://www.classicalstuff.net/ They have a series about Gengis Kahn.

I agree, I honestly think that this is OSS Achilles heel, is the bad actor who take value and instead of giving value back demand better support, that can allow even worse actors to take control. There needs to be a way, to allow the developers to get payed for their efforts with still having the coolness of OSS, or else I'm afraid the entire free software experience might break. (I'm not worried about 0 A.D., until Microsoft Amazon and Google use it for an essential part of their infrastructure and don't contribute.)

What's more scary is how there was a weaponized effort to take over an essential part of the Linux stack by burning out a sole developer and then adding the malicious code. It was pure luck that someone found the problem.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/03/xz-tools-and-libraries-compromised-with-a-critical-issue/ This is a few days late, but if anyone has a rolling release Linux distro make sure you update. That story is actually scary.

I think for some reason, you're making it seem much more complicated, @hyperion than I've seen it with even the flatpak people. I don't see how it would be hard, to say, "hey people who are currently doing a fine job with maintaining the Flathub, how about we make this official?" And then have them help the dev team maintain it. If you're afraid of getting more bugs, well you'll get it anyway, because people always assume it's the game when it's not the package format, I see it with the other repo I've been helping maintain. The only thing to do is have someone there who can try to help them figure the problem out. Looking over what @Stan` said, I think he assumed I meant making it official for the game. That isn't the case. I'm just suggesting WFG take some control over the flatpak like they have the snap, so we don't have the "scary" verified check mark.

Don't you realize we can just take a snap, AppImage or literally any other binary and just have flathub pull it? If we could get the AppImage online, you'd just tell the flathub to run that. There wouldn't even need signing, you just tell flathub to directly download it from WFG

I believe the plan behind Flatpak was to build on one distro run on all others. I have run into issues, however, where something failed to work on one system that did on another. However, that was a problem between flatpak and system versions, not the flatpak. Just as for example wine + 0 A.D. might not work with all distro combinations. I actually don't even think Flathub wants you to test that many distros. The other thing to note is distros are moving to flatpak. Fedora is stopping support for LibreOffice packages to use focus on the flatpak.

Sort of, except with the Flatpak issue, we can actually do something about it.

I don't mind the unverified label. But I think we probably should not have it because other users could easily be scared away from it, and besides I think it's only fair with we have the official snap, we should have an official release for the more popular third party app store. Native means, It's built specifically for Linux. Does it cost something for WFG to make a Linux build? Even when people like me volunteer to help? If so, how much? I am certain if you just did flatpak and snap, it would be much cheaper than helping to maintain the 12+ different package repositories for the Linux distros? I don't know how much you use Linux, but it is really bad to use wine with a game with an installer. Not only do you have to install the game, but most of the time you have to set up a desktop icon. Of course, you could use something like Lutris, but that's even more work. And of course, using wine increases the raw system power you need on a device. Also, there are many people who are using Linux and aren't tech people who compile apps. I have never compiled an app from source, and if that was the only way to make me play a game, I wouldn't because I don't want to have to go through that much work to play a video game.

No. Why should I? I have native Linux builds.

The first time I started 0 A.D. it didn't, but then it did.

Let's put it this way, on the steam survey, Ubuntu is the second most popular distro. The first is Arch, (from the steam deck, I think.) But even if you don't count arch, all the other distros put together are almost twice the amount of users as Ubuntu. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/?platform=combined Another possibly imperfect place for us to look is the Gaming On Linux Stats: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statistics/ Those stats seems to suggest that while Ubuntu based distros are the most popular, Ubuntu is only slightly higher than Pop!_OS or Linux Mint, and both of those Operating systems get rid of snap. In fact, I used to use Ubuntu, and it's still my go to operating system, but the first thing I do is ditch snap. I'm sure a lot of other Ubuntu users do likewise. So yes, technically Ubuntu is the most popular distro, there still are more people using Fedora/Arch/OpenSuse/etc than Ubuntu.

In that case, do you want me to confirm the issue exists? I can spin up a virtual box and see with 23.10

I'm going to be honest, most of the time the distribution packages can be woefully out of date, and most of the advice I see for new Linux users is to just go with flatpak. Also, snap is only used by canonical, and not a lot of people use it. I'm willing to help with testing/ mantaining a flathub repo. If we steal the unofficial one, I think most of the work would be done.

The issue was with 23.04 which is unsupported by Canonical, so I think we could safely close the issue.

Trac looks alive. However, couldn't use submit the thing to the GitHub mirror?

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/04/flathub-now-prominently-notes-unverified-flatpak-apps/ I understand that it's extra work for the developers, but I can foresee this as a potential hang up for new Linux users trying to get onto 0 A.D. Flatpak is by far the easiest way to install an up-to-date version of the game, and a big unverified tag might turn people away. Anyway, I'm sure whoever runs the unofficial flatpak repo, would gladly hand it over to the developers, and so all the set-up work will be done. All that would need to be done is update the flatpak whenever we get a new release.

How many moderators does the forum have?

Me too. Mostly funny things. I try to make the mods day. Also, Cryptonauts. Doesn't that sound cosmonaut? Cosmonaut is much cooler than Astronaut.

Also, seeing that it's Easter...

Well, it was a bit more than a weekend...