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I wanted to advocate an idea for an campaign and hope we can create something. The first thing I would like to do is to find historical inspiration for the missions. Mission 1: Battle of Gaza: Together with your ally ptolemy, you defeat Demetrius the besieger. In this mission the both sides start with a big army and you get to control it. Mission 2: The Babylonian War: This time the opponent are the antigonids again. In this mission it is important to capture local/gaia CCs and get the local support. Maybe we can find a role for Local(Persian) troops in this war. Mission 3: Seleucid–Mauryan war: The opponent is the Mauryas, but I am not sure what the mission should further look like. I think that from the fact that Chandragupta Maurya accepted to marry Seleucids daughter probably means Seleucus army fought honorably. Mission 4: The battle of Ipsus: Personally, I prefer mission where u build an army instead of just starting with some armies and then fighting it out. So I do not have a lot of ideas for this mission. Mission 5: The defeat of Demetrius in Cilicia: In this mission, you will avoid a direct confrontation and instead you will opt to chose a number of fortifications in order to to trap the army of Demetrius of which they join Seleucus. Mission 6: Aftermath of the Battle of Corupedium: After Lysimachus is defeated, you are tasked with a small army to take some possession in Asia Minor. Maybe extra mission could be added. Also it would be nice if the galatians could get a role if they deserve so.

FeldFeld has been able to create balanced mainland and that one seems to be used. Also, if there are complaints then those people might enjoy a change. The only problem with the mod system is that it can be a little cumbersome to install mods (It can take up to several minutes!). If map mods are published on mod.io that could make it less cumbersome.

To be honest, I don't think the requirements for making such a map would be that high. If you look at some age of empires campaign maps, they don't need to be perfect to tell a great story.

I think the story of Seleucus has the advantage in that he interacted with the macedonian, the ptolemies, the persian (after the achaemenids had been defeated), the galatian gauls and the mauryas.

What I think could increase the playability for 0ad single players is to add campaigns, which can also give some nice stories about history. Like the rise of Seleucid the first would make a good story.

We currently use an elo-like system and such a system does not have a long memory.

First of all, I would like people to approach things as age of empires 2 did. If you want to play a different map, you can bring your own and play on it. I think the distribution has some charm. It allows for some specialized builds, such as the Carthaginian one. Also, there is not enough wood near the CC, so the players need to move out anyway.

As a 1900 rated player, I think it would be suitable to upload a 0AD tier list. I would not want to be anyone that uploads a tier list and present my opinion as a fact. So therefore I uploaded the following tier list.

They indeed have steeper benefits, but it is a lot harder for them to promote, even if ranged units need more xp. Xp is gained per damage dealt and ranged units deal more damage and aren't prone to dying as much a frontliners. Also, promotion is a subject we could tackle in other ways. I was playing with Leonidas and had hoplite tradition, so you expect to do more damage and get easy promotions for the hoplites. That was not the case in the battles.

Something I noticed about snowballing is the imbalance of ranged/melee units, where ranged units are more valuable/important. If you defeat an opponent in a battle, he loses some of his ranged units. While the winner only loses some melee units and keeping the more valuable/important ranged units alive. Currently, you only IMHO need enough melee units to tank enemy fire. So having lost some melee units is not bad as long as you have enough to tank opposing fire, In some situations having about 10% melee units can be enough in these situations. If you have most of your ranged (&valuable/important) units alive, then you remain at nearly full firepower. So here is another way for me to advocate reducing the power of ranged units.

Or disable all mods, check if that solves it. Then try to enable the mods and see which one does it. If you know which one it is, you can try to remove it and redownload it.

Why is it necessary that all heroes/units are from a factions zenith? If you take heroes from different eras you also get heroes that fought different enemies so that leave more room for stories and such. Taking only heroes from a factions zenith means the Macedonians do not have a Greek enemy represented in the timeframe of their power. For me it seems to be fine to represent most factions as they were during the period of their zenith and the time thereafter until say 0AD.

I don't know where u used to stand in A23 and we did not play a lot of games in A24 together. But according to the leaderboard, you are with a respectable rating of 1905 just a single point behind me

That is opposite to what I was thinking, but I can respect that. The thing I dislike about Sparta is that they have so little variety of units, but that could say more about my views than it says about the Spartans. A good question, but I would like to rephrase it: Why does the consular bodyguard exist and have excellent stats? If it was a sub-par unit, I think it would not be such an issue from a historical point of view.

@lagger, I think you are jumping on conclusions to quickly. First of all, you assume someone misused their powers, whereas a little more interest in that person might bring you on other views. For the case of being expected to resign after your allies have lost, that is indeed something. Against 4 opponents you won't have a fair chance and that is something you understood as well. Noobdude decided to close the game, which seems rude to you. In 0ad we are in the inconvenient position that if the host leaves the game, the game closes. That aside, I think the notion of ''rude'' depends on how you view it. Obviously you might have fun trying to defend, but what if the other 4 players just consider it a waste of time? Is it then still rude to leave the game? The answer on that question depends on what is bringing you towards the game and if that is competitive play, then winning 4v1 is not your thing. So probably those people view that you are just wasting their time by trying to play 4v1, while the game is all ready over in their view. Also, if they think that someone who drags unwinnable games on, they might consider that annoying. So is a person allowed to kick someone from a game if they consider that person annoying? Or let me rephrase it: Do you have to accept annoying people in your games? If the answer is "no", then you can hardly call that an abuse of power. While I (hope to) understand your point of view, there are people with other views. I think that both views should be respected and phrases as "rude" and "abuse of power" are not in place. Also if you don't like Noobdude or anyone in particular, you could always host your own games and decide with who you want to play.

That's true, but I guess two would be better than one

I think Sparta without Spartans is weird, but it is also weird to have only one champion unit and let it be available early. So I would suggest something like the Trophimoi, non-Spartan citiziens who received Spartan education. That would also be fitting for the team, as Spartan education is something that Sparta provided to loyal allied nobles. I would suggest to make the Trophimoi available as a team bonus (available at the CC once p3 is reached, no upgrades required). Both champions should be champion hoplites, but the difference with the Trophimoi could be that instead of the +25% HP, they get an small aura to inspire/drill/boost nearby spearman. That is also what Xanthippus of Carthage did in the first punic wars. Xenophon had sent children to the agoge and Clearchus of Sparta was a spartan mercenary helping the Persians. The existance of Trophimoi also boosted probably the morale of the Spartan non-citizen hoplites, as it was a way to gain a better social class. So boosting Spartan CS hoplites would also be justified. I think having a champion with aura as a team bonus is more interactive than just some extra health. Anyway, I think there are a lot of "ill-designed" team bonuses, that help with all strategies but nothing in particular. Also, it is a pity to me that the Iberian&roman team bonuses are more impactful than most regular bonuses.

I think people underrate how good a combination of jav cav+melee cav is. The jav cav deal so much damage and the melee cav just can function a bit as a damage sponge. I enjoy going for the macedonian merc cav in p2 during TGs. If you go for merc cav, it is nice to have a stable for the upgrades and then you can use the stable for unit production. If you are curious for the results I used jav cav in all these uploads: Also in the weirdjokes=boomer game we see BreakfastBurrito_007 using jav cav with the seleucid hero. At that point it is off course difficult to say if the cavalry would be more efficient than a push with siege and infantry, but the cavalry do have their advantages in some situations.

Jofursloft uploaded a video where Valihr went for cavalry archers. I think it shows that the cavalry did little damage, while in theory it looks attractive. From my own experience I know that unupgraded rank1 mounted archers miss a lot of their shots (champion chariots have a spread of 1, which makes them a lot better).

I had some games that I did not want to analyze in full, but I liked to show some things about them. On youtube we see a #shorts for some highlights and I thought that such a thing would be nice for those who do not want to spend 20 or more minutes to watch a game. So I have done some video emitting and got this. I think this format is nice to show some tricks that you can do.

That does not work. First of all, that formula does not make sense if the limit does not exist. Secondly, you don't make the differential by that way, it is calculated that way. The differential of a function exists or does not, regardless of whether you can calculate it. So in that sense you don't make the differential.

I need to warn you. @Player of 0AD is a dirty boomer WierdJokes=boomer.zip

I could only agree on this if A46 would be named tesamen

I think it would not help to push the game to the public. I think games that are popular result in high prizepool tournament. I don't see it automatically working the other way around.

Zama as the place of the battle of Zama.