Yekaterina

I like your voice! You totally deserve it. Can you add the balancing advisors to the list of credits please. Thanks

If we go completely accurate according to history, then it will upset all of the balancing advisors, so let's find a compromise: Allow siege weapon to garrison 1 bolt shooter and fire at most 1 bolt. Remove crush damage from regular arrows, and decrease their accuracy as well as pierce. Or simply don't change anything for now, let people do intensive games on A25 and see what complaints we get about siege towers.

I am considering merging Thracians, Illyrians and Dacians into 1 mod: Balkan expansion pack.

Who is Hanni, and can you make a patch to disable this please?

Genuine problem: This is 2 rams, but overlapping onto each other. Please can we disable actor overlapping as you never know whether you are under attack by 1 ram or 10 rams merged into each other:

That sounds like Lithobolos + Oxybeles + Onager to me

What other bonuses should she give? I am not sure what pools do. Perhaps swimming tech - naval upgrade? e.g. all ships +20% attack because soldiers are more proficient at fighting in water. Or, even better, soldiers can swim

Expect a tsunami of rams pouring onto your cc at minute 5

lol @Lion.Kanzen didn't see your thread. Please tell @Stan` to merge our threads on Dacians. I have the structure tree proposed already.

If you are not patient, download the code from github or svn then compile: https://github.com/0ad/0ad.git https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/BuildInstructions

Thank you very much @Ceres I have opened up another thread just for the Dacians.

It would be helpful to have some information on their siege weapons as well as some suggestions on the bonuses of the heroes.

Dear historians, @Thorfinn the Shallow Minded @Genava55 , what do you think about this?

This thread arised from here: https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/41821-thracians-and-illyrians-mod-a25/ and here: https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/28120-ideas-for-new-civilizations-core-game/page/2/ Proposed Structure tree for Dacians: P1: CC (trains Dacian Spearmen, Dacian Falxman, Dacian women, Dacian bodyguard cavalry), storehouse, farmstead, field, corral, outpost, dock, stable, sentry tower, palisade, Getae Barracks (Trains all Getae Units) 5 pop houses (because they were barbarians) P2: Blacksmith, Temple, Market, Defence tower, Wall, Dacian Elite Barrack (Trains Dacian Chosen units), Military colony (Trains the same units as the CC) P3: Siege workshop Siege walls Fortress Wonder – to be determined Proposed Unit Roster: Women, goat, pig, cow, healer Heroes: Teres I Seuthes III Kotys I Sitalces Citizen Infantry: Dacian Spearmen Dacian Swordsman Getae Slingers Getae Youth Javelineers Getae archers Getae peasant Falxmen Dacian Chosen Falxmen Dacian Chosen Spearmen Dacian Chosen Swordsmen Champion infantry: Heavy Noble Hoplites (Champion infantry spearmen) Elite archers (Champion infantry archer) Cavalry: Dacian scout (weak but fast melee cavalry), starting unit, cannot be trained. Getae skirmisher cavalry Dacian bodyguard (archer cavalry) Dacian Royal cavalry (champion melee spear cavalry) (Tarabostes) Siege: to be determined. Navy: Fishing boat Black Sea marauder (fast, high ram attack, low durability) Dacian Heavy warship (on par with triremes) Notes: 1. Getae Peasant units can be promoted to Dacian Chosen Units 2. Getae Peasant units have low cost, low health, low attack, low armour but are cheap. 3. Dacian scout cannot be trained; each player gets 1 for free to begin with, if they lose it, it cannot be replaced. 4. Dacian Chosen units resemble elite rank units; they cost more, have more attack and armour, but also takes longer to train. 5. Regular Dacian units can be promoted to elite Dacian units. 6. Promotion: Getae -> Dacian -> Dacian Chosen

@BreakfastBurrito_007 the art work is giving me a big pain as I am no artist. Can you help me edit the actor files (just tweaking props)? Or give me some sketches of the cavalrymen and infantry swordsmen?

We have 3 other heroes already, and they are all pretty strong. 1. Simon - half price walls, double the durability of walls. 2. Salome Alexandra: half price fortresses, herself being strong at capturing 3. John: all mercenaries cost half price.

Assuming an Iberian and a siege tower faction ally up, yes. However, it would still take at least 2 arrows to kill a female citizen as opposed to 1, and this only applies to one siege tower. I am considering removing Herod from the heroes list as Thorfinn thinks he is more of a villainous character.

Maybe a shield? I will give it some linothorax

@Stan` What do you think about this as a mercenary cavalry spearman? (my first attempt at creating an actor)

It only has 1 Ptolemaic head as a prop ptol_quilted_b

You mean like I give it a Ptolmaic head, Persian horse, British rider and Macedonian spear? Or do you want me to create props from scratch in blender? In that case I need you to give me a crash course on how to make models in blender. Tbh I really need to learn blender.

@Genava55 Please give me some heroes for the Thracians. Would be helpful if you can propose an unit roster for Dacians.

I have commenced working on Dacians Mod. Please give me some suggestions and propose an unit roster.

@Dejan1998 here is my fork of Thracians ready for A25. https://github.com/Yekaterina999/thracians At the moment it lacks champions and siege and heroes, but basic units are already playable.

Dear historians @Thorfinn the Shallow Minded @Ceres Please suggest some champion units and heroes for the Thracians. What cavalry did they use? What siege weapons did they have? Do they have any specialties to distinguish them from other Hellenic civs?