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Meroë, Temple M 250, the so-called Sun Temple
Art by Sundiata (Malcolm Quartey)
The 1st century BC Meroitic period temple on the outskirts of the capital. It is still uncertain which god(s) it was dedicated to. Making use of the Kushite textures (by LordGood and Wowgetoffyourcellphone, if I'm not mistaken). I've suggested this structure as the Kushite wonder before, and thought I'd just give it a go myself. The model isn't finished yet (texturing). It's less than 10.000 tris (and I don't expect to add any more geometry), so I sincerely hope it can replace the current wonder (which looks great and can still be used in Atlas).
(Those acacia trees were just a free asset I found somewhere. Using an HDRI to light the scene for the first time.)
Quote"The site has most recently been examined in 1984 and 1985 by the Central Institute of Ancient History and Archaeology of the Academy of Sciences (Berlin). In 1986 and 1987 conservation work on the very endangered temple structure was begun by the Sudan Directorate General of Antiquities and National Museums.
The temple (Meroe 250) stood in a nearly square temenos (Meroe 249) surrounded by a mudbrick wall (Meroe 247), 2.7m thick, which was faced with fired bricks and a coat of lime plaster. Two of the four entrances, the east and west gates, were constructed in stone masonry. From the east gate, the main entrance, a paved causeway (dromos) led to the temple proper. The temple was built in the style of Meroitic one-room temples, with a pylon, fifty cubits wide, in front. Reliefs on the lowest register of the south (exterior) wall depict battle scenes with enemies being slaughtered. On the northern wall reliefs show the triumphal return of soldiers, accompanied by captured men, women and children. These scenes are repeated on many of the 700 relief blocks found scattered at the site, which may have come from the upper faces of the temple’s walls.
Most of the temple was surrounded by a type of colonnade (peridromos) with an estimated seventy-two columns decorated with open papyrus capitals. An important scene on the west wall includes a southern elevation of the temple showing the colonnade. Archaeological evidence dates the colonnade (and thus the reliefs) to Ptolemaic or Roman times. Iconographic details also demonstrate that the reliefs date to the end of the first century BC/beginning of the first century AD.
From the dromos the temple was entered by a ramp through the pylon gateway. An inner court (hypaethral), raised 2m above the ground, was surrounded by fifty-one columns (peristyle) with open papyrus capitals. Within this court was a temple with an elevated interior containing a rectangular sanctuary surrounded by a narrow ambulatory. Small stairs provided access from the court to the rear of the inner temple and its ambulatory."
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Actual relief from the temple, depicting the temple itself (templeception)
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3 minutes ago, stanislas69 said:
Glad you like it ! I recorded it maybe twenty times
Practice makes perfect... If you knew how many test renders I do when I'm making something you'll laugh....
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@stanislas69 Thank you soooo much! Excellent narration by the way!
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@LordGood Mmmmm... Nice!
All of it...
Any chance we could get a quick tutorial on how you make flora? Min/max requirements etc..
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2 hours ago, Nescio said:
bigae (light two-horse chariot):
- Kushite biga archer champion [Kush]
As Alexander said, it's in his horse update. Thanks to him for rigging, animating and actually getting the model in game...
It was intended specifically for the hero Queen Amanirenas (chariotry was still around in the 500 BC - 1 BC timeframe, but not as common as it once was). I guess it could be adapted for a champion unit as well. It was originally decided to drop chariots because the Kushite roster is already so diverse and other factions don't have such a diverse roster.
A new find in the excavation report of the first excavations of Meroë by Garstang himself. A Kushite chariot from a fragmented relief on the 1st century BC Meroitic period temple M 250 in Meroë (in a militaristic context of battles, massacres, marching soldiers, occupied villages etc). Similar to the fragmented reliefs of 2 chariots in the 1st century BC Meroitic period temple of Osiris in Napata, as well as the fragmented reliefs of chariots the 8th century BC, 25th dynasty reliefs of Piye in the Great Amun temple of Napata.
I could also give the "Libyan" chariot a go. Just to be clear, do you mean Libyan, or Garamantian chariot? https://africanrockart.britishmuseum.org/thematic/chariots-in-the-sahara/
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2 hours ago, stanislas69 said:
My only issue is that once again it might only be used in mods...
Why wouldn't it be committed to vanilla?
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Nice catch. Personally I always thought the range of fortresses was a little too small. You could also reduce the range of archers of course, but since they're a bit of an underused unit as it is, I'd prefer the first option (fortresses aren't much of an obstacle in late game anyway, so a little buff in terms of range won't hurt gameplay, I think)
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@Monder87 Nice stuff!
One question, you've probably covered this, but are these units supposed to be some kind of NPC's that take care of their own stuff, and are assigned indirectly to certain jobs, or do you have to keep track of and adjust all these things manually?
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The Nuba Village: African Mini Faction, concept art
Some concept art made by me (getting carried away again), inspired by Stanislas' Nuba merc camp, and using his texture for the huts. Generic African warrior dude was a free 3D printable model that I imported into Blender (https://free3d.com/3d-model/african-tribal-warriorsknobkerrie-club-v3--170705.html).
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Oooh, @Victor Rossi is one amazing artist!
Dahomean storyteller:
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/k426ll
Dahomey was a relatively small, yet powerful militaristic kingdom on the West African coast centred on modern day Togo, sandwiched between the Ashanti and Oyo Empires. It was ruled from Abomey, between 1600 and 1894, and they were probably most known for the Dahomey Amazons (the Ahosi or the Mino), an elite force of several thousand women with a ferocious reputation, fighting as a royal guard, as well as well as separate wings (left and right) embedded in the main army. They actually participated in some major battles like the battle of Atakpame.
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12 minutes ago, Diatryma said:
more close of 0 A.D is Starcraft and then MoBA like LoL
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There are more direct comparisons, like the obvious AoE series, but also games like Rise of Nations, the Empire Earth series, Rise and Fall: Civilizations at War, Empires Apart, etc..
There are indeed vague similarities between all the games mentioned, and I think it's good to take inspiration from anything that could benefit this game, regardless of genre. Nothing extreme, of course. In essence 0AD will always be a historical, Classical RTS. But we can also try to expand the meaning of that.
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The Kushites seem to have the Thai stamp of approval
I don't know what Shaka has to do with it though... Cool art either way
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42 minutes ago, Genava55 said:
(+bonus)
Made my evening...
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4 hours ago, asterix said:
Potentially it could be added in
I'm pretty sure @Trinketos would be happy with some more helping hands
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25 minutes ago, coworotel said:
Are there some pictures of that?
It's still a work in progress. I'll share it in the forum for public scrutiny very soon (it hasn't passed any reviews yet), but the idea is to have an RTS adaptation of an actual Gallic sanctuary, the sanctuary at Gournay-sur-Aronde in particular (but it has parallels in other sanctuaries as well).
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1 hour ago, Genava55 said:
If we consider them as fanatics warriors, they could be recruited from the sanctuary. It will fit nicely I think since the new sanctuary is more warlike than the current one.
Now that you mention it, it would be interesting to explain the ritual aspect of their nakedness (I know there's debate about it, but let's be real, it was probably ritual more than anything, no?). It wouldn't be the only civ to recruit a special unit from their temple either.
1 hour ago, Genava55 said:It could be. The only thing is that this kind of building is something developed in the late phase of the La Tène culture, when it was in a urbanization stage. Thus a third phase building. While the Gallic naked warriors are known from the third century BC, before the urbanization, and it is expected to be a second phase unit in the game.
I stand corrected
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1 hour ago, stanislas69 said:
I wonder though where it will be recruited if the tavern is replaced by the auditorium and what the auditorium will be for.
I could easily imagine the "auditorium", which probably functioned as some sort of assembly building for nobles, as the place where nobles came together to make important decisions, like hiring a bunch of naked fanatics for the upcoming campaign or whatever.
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Some nice narration from a new player getting to know the game. Same guy as the video Coworotel posted 2 messages up.
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8 minutes ago, Imarok said:
Then the question how the natural manes looked in timeframe still remains
Afaik the form of the mane heavily depends on the breed.
And speaking as a total layman in terms of history and warfare: I think a long mane could be quite hindering in the battle, as it can obstruct your vision when the horse moves its head.Normally the mane never hinders the rider. It's difficult to explain, but it's not really a thing you ever worry about when riding. It never obstructs vision. Unless you're riding something like an Andalusian with ornately long manes, then yes, maybe it's an issue if your spear get's tangled in that. I did randomly read somewhere that manes were sometimes trimmed for that reason... The main thing I can think of is with heavily armored horses like the cataphracts, the manes might be cut (slightly helps prevent overheating when the neck is covered, I assume), but you wouldn't see the manes in that case anyway. Manes were also sometimes pleated, for decoration/neatness.
About the types of manes, it's true that some breeds have much more bushy manes, especially the more archaic types, I believe (Celtic horses maybe?).
I'll try to make a few variations for the mane-textures soon (trimmed, cropped, pleated).
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Quite frankly, I think the current icon of a pick axe is close enough to the Roman Dolabra, which was, among other things, used for mining and was part of the legionary's kit used for digging trenches and such. The current icon is clear and unambiguous.
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@Anaxandridas ho Skandiates Useful contributions to the game are always welcome, but you seem to have some difficulty grasping a few things. First of, we are all volunteers, and individuals will pretty much work on what they want to work. Especially if they're not team members. Nobody is paying anyone's bills here. There's a million and one things the team members are pre-occupied with, and they're horribly short-staffed as well. Wow is the main developer of Delenda Est, a total conversion mod, and is dealing with a plate full himself. I honestly chuckled at his response, but it's no less a genuine suggestion. People are drowning in work as it is. The pick-axe isn't a priority (it's not even wrong). But nobody is stopping you from making your own version if you want to.
If you're an Antiquity expert, you should relish in the opportunity of educating us plebs, but some of your responses to quite a number of individuals who simply asked questions or sources have been nothing less than arrogant, and you become borderline belligerent and unnecessarily personal in some of your posts as well.
I'm not attacking your expertise, but it's a bit difficult to take an anonymous person serious when their response to anyone who questions them is basically: "who is the expert here? Huh? You or me?" And when confronted with conflicting views from other (non-anonymous) experts, you just dismiss them. In another discussion, Lion.Kanzen warned you that you will be ignored if you insist on being like that. It's up to you, if you want to prove him right or not.
I'm honestly curious about your modeling work, you clearly know your Greek, and I sincerely hope that you can become/continue to be a valuable contributer to the game. I just hope that you take my words serious, and try to work on your communication skills. There's no need for aggression (active or passive).
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I should really get to work on more serious things... Anyway, a quick concept update: some lazy texturing using Carthage texture pack.
One day, my sweet Sabaeans.... One day...
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8 hours ago, Imarok said:
Also what mane types were common in that timeframe and cultures?
Interesting remark... I have no doubt that natural manes were the norm, in general terms, but since you bring it up, quite a number of depictions of horses with roached/hogged/cropped manes, that stand up right, exist from Antiquity. A very small number of horses have naturally upright manes (comparable to those of przewalski's and zebra). Actually wouldn't be bad for some of the Greco-Roman and Achaemenid elite cav...
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16 minutes ago, borg- said:
I put tech "poison arrows" in the new version 1.0.3, but only for maiden archers.
Ooooh, Kushite archers needs this as well! Nice... I think they used the poison of vipers...
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The Sabaean Temple of Barran, near Ma'rib, is colloquially known as the Throne of Bilqis (Bilqis is the Arabic name for the Queen of Sheba). I got a little carried away and modeled a quick tentative reconstruction. 0AD concept art for a new Sabaean faction, in a few years time
Mmmm, Sabaeans...
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The Kingdom of Kush: A proper introduction [Illustrated]
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lol! I keep getting carried away with things that aren't priority... But I learn so much in the process...
Yes! I thought about it and then forgot about it...