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I am from Vietnam and would be happy to help if I can.

That’s a nice move. 35 and 50 with an upgrade sounds good. I’m not exactly sure which issue you’re referring to, but in any case, 20 is a low number. Increasing it would make sense. Let’s say it’s better not to stack all your hopes behind one fortress.

Vietnamese during the Mod period. Then it will be from the end of the Hongbang Dynasty onwards. Since our mod is more flexible with dates, we'll even have the Trung sisters.

I'm making this poll without knowing how relevant/appreciated it will be or if the proposed changes will be merged, but could still be interesting. The problem : In R28, the capture has been rebalanced to make harder to capture, especially for key buildings (civic center and forts). This was done by increasing drastically the base capture point regeneration of buildings. The resulting effects vary across scenarios so let's take 2 examples. A large army with high tier units capturing will still capture the building just as fast, the capture regeneration doesn't add resistance or delay in that case. So still rarely giving the defender the opportunity to react. Smaller armies that seems to be able to capture the building have a hard time estimating how close they are to actually capturing a building, because capture point regeneration have a exponential effect on the time/difficulty to capture... Humans are not very good with exponential effects so it generally result in frustrations. A gimmicky play is for example to get Marian reform with Romans and start capturing everything in a few second even if a whole army is attacking you, you can perfectly capture a fort in less then 5 secs.... Example bellow I had 3 secs before the fort full of champs had below 50% capture points vs 150 romans. Proposed change : Increase base capture point of key buildings instead (cc, fort), making it longer to capture across all scenarios instead of only when it was already the hardest. Make towers Sentry tech, and Professional Garrison add capture points, making the tech more interesting.

If I recall correctly, Roman Army Camp used to be able to hold 40 soldiers. Granted, when the collision issue (or just the formations exploit) is fixed, a full Fortress will be almost impossible to capture at full health, which might be a good thing lol.

From this initial post you made, it doesn’t come across as an additional idea but rather as a solution to the problem of buildings being too easy to capture. That is: instead of increasing capture resistance, allowing more units to garrison inside. That’s why I responded the way I did. What I mean is that, from a gameplay perspective, it seems much more interesting to improve the capture points of buildings and be able to keep more units outside, actively engaged in combat. If you garrison 40 or 50 units out of an army of 150, the enemy will most likely be able to wipe out the remaining forces due to overwhelming numerical superiority. I’m not opposed to increasing the garrison capacity of forts/CCs or other important buildings per se. But when it’s proposed as a solution to the issue of rapid capture, I think it’s better to directly strengthen capture resistance instead. As for the historical aspects, I understand them, but this is a game and, as such, it relies on certain abstractions.

This is what we are talking about with formation exploit: formation capture exploit.mp4 And this: formation gathering exploit.mp4 The problem with this approach is that, if you need to garrison, say, around 40 units to prevent your building from being captured, out of an average of 150 soldier units you might have in a 200 pop game, you end up dedicating 26% of your units just to guarding a single building. It makes more sense to increase capture resistance.

This was already the case, adding regen rate just shifts the curve rightward. Also, I don't get how adding 1000 points would help that much in the cases you bring up. 5 seconds to maybe 5.5 or 6 seconds?

Another potential solution that came to mind is increasing the number of units that can be garrisoned inside a fortress. Isn’t 20 soldiers too few for a fortress? Historically, 20 soldiers is already a very small number, it feels the same in game as well. A temple can hold 20 soldiers too. A fortress and a temple having the same capacity doesn’t feel right, maybe this could be adjusted. (It’s also interesting that theaters, which historically hosted performances for thousands of people in ancient times, can only hold 5 units.)

totally, there needs to be some pushing. Or just remove the option that stops formations from being disbanded as it is pretty much only useful for the exploit.

There are quite a few ways to do this but ideally first fix the limitations that this behavior tries to compensate for.. +8 is generally elevation bonus to range, aka the height of the turret itself. If you look into the selection tooltip it will show you total elevation bonus, which include how high on terrain the tower is (on a hill for example), however I found out recently that this wasn't correctly applied (see proposed fix for it). With arrow shooter tech it become 60base +8tech +9elevation total bonus (IIRC vanilla show them merged so +17). Stone towers also have higher base elevation bonus..

They should, if you have other units that are to engage the enemy. But, the issue here is that currently there is no soft cap on amount of units that can capture one building. That soft cap should be the size of the building, and when the enemy surrounds it completely, that's it. How many units can realistically surround the Fortress? Surely not 150.

Nice poll, @Atrik. Additionally, it would be good to address the exploit that allows capturing buildings in tight spaces using formations.

Or, and hear me out on this, we can actually fix the collision so that those 150 Marian Romans have to surround the building (thus exposing them to fire from multiple angles) in order to capture it? In the picture, I see that all units are on one side, and many are literally inside one another. The collision system was annoying and buggy in A23, but it worked. If you sent 35 cavalry against enemy's 3 archers, the cavalry would still have to surround the archers, so they got in the way of each other. In R28, those 35 cavalry would blend into each other, instantly vaporizing the poor archers with 1000% overkill rate. Current system is: - Physically impossible, - Historically inaccurate, - Looks terrible, especially with massed cavalry. I know that this is a separate problem, but you aren't exactly supposed to keep those champions inside the Fortress. They should be outside fighting. Losing one Fortress while 150 enemy units are exposed to fire won't hurt you as much if the collision worked. I voted for adding to base capture regeneration and for both added tech, btw.

I think this is generally a good thing.

That's what decides how big a unit actually is, for pathfinding purposes (such as if it can walk between trees or buildings that are close together). Default is regular unit size, large is used by siege machines and war elephants, and then there's several naval classes.

We're working on this too. Not sure the search will be better tho. We're trying to get away from this proprietary software.

So do the Forums tbh. We need some upgraded search software on here.

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