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In Rise of Nations, there was that civ which could make build whereever the f it wanted to.. some american tribe I forgot.. probably the incans.. and they were broken af!! the Germans seems to be that in 0AD where you can migrate so easily.. I suggest that you limit the max number of CC for germans to TWO or maybe ONE max.

@Perzival12 Very interesting project! Let's give new bot the name - "Puer AI" (puer means Boy or child in Latin) - "Calculus" (latin. "pebble", small round piece of stone) - Pebble AI (pebble is small stone... and also opensource community brand for smart watch) I like mostly "Puer AI" and "Pebble AI" variants. Both starts from P (as Petra) and means small variant of something bigger.

Note: The mod has been tested on version R29 for developers, but should be compatible with A27 and R28. Description: Adds 21 ranks for Support Units. When a certain amount of resources is gathered, the unit's rank increases. Each subsequent rank improves the overall gathering speed for all resources. The bonus and the amount of resources required grows exponentially. Example: Rank Bonus Amount of resources required for improvement 2 +1% 30 3 +3% 45 ... 21 +200% (approximately 15 minutes when gathering fruit, for other resources it takes 2 or more times longer). Ranks are not displayed in the unit interface, only the change in gathering speed. promotion-for-support-units.zip

Ships! polished stone age and cooper age!!

@real_tabasco_sauce @BreakfastBurrito_007 @guerringuerrin @Atrik @chrstgtr @borg- tl;dr; move Migratory Settlement and Wagon Trains techs to P3 and/or nerf them; Germans combine all the strongest CS and cav unit types so make some units more difficult to access I think there is one too many units in the Germans' barrack. All other civs have at most 4 units in barracks including merc not-including champs. Maybe remove the spearmen ? Currently they not only have sword-skirm as Romans and spear-sling like Britons but ALSO are allowed to make P1 clubmen which might be broken if they weren't so weak. Tbfh the Migratory Settlement tech needs to nerfed or removed because it goes against all territory mechanics. I capture a barrack in your city ? Ok, I don't even need to garrison it. I capture a tower, a house; have fun recapturing it ! All that in P2 for cheap. (btw it would be cool if capture could move backed to right-click by default as it's a common issue for nubs) There are some issues regarding the camp/wagons. I think @Arup said resistance/capture points are too high with the upgrade. I think the population bonus tech should be moved to P3. It's quite powerful if you use only wagons as storehouses which are already 25 res less than a storehouse/farmstead. Now you get a free 75 res house which makes spamming wagons and then doing Home Garden/Manors and delete them if you really need the small pop space a no-brainer. As for champ cav I'm not up-to date but here is my take. Lowering the health seems like a good idea but it might not be enough to stop them being banned in TGs. One of the principal issues is the comparatively strong Persian/Seleucid cataphracts. Nerfing the tech, speed etc. is fine but why would you make them +2 resistances ?? They already got the hero and the issue with champ cav is that they are too strong against infantry and melee for cav. Some might say this is making the problem much worse than it already is. Also it's nice you can now hit and run with your other spear cav but the cataphract will still win and survive with about 40% health. (also a minor nerf to fanatics would be appreciated so the 1300 player doesn't instantly die and the ecobot-spammer has to go P3 to win against him) On top of that the Germans now can pre-build small cheap champ building in P2 and then start spamming swords champ cav 1 minute earlier than the Romans. One should get rid off the champ building. There is already 2 other places where you can get log rams. Move the champ cav to the stables and do the customary unlock tech and the champ axemen to the barrack (to P3; but it's not really a problem with the high metal cost) and remove the spear- or swordsman there. Also pls buff archer so that @SenatorLEVI will return to the game. All in all if you liked your favorite broken civ the Gauls, you might also like this ... the Germans !!

Confirmed! Those are the matchups.

I agree. I think people get offended over way too many things these days, but I understand why someone might be a little miffed if this was the portrayal. it's ok if we can't change it this release, but personally I think this should be addressed in the next one.

@Gurken Khan: merged, but will probably not be added to R28 anymore.

I did, yesterday

Okay everyone, so I got the easier ai done. I present to you, the one and only (AFAIK) EasyAI!!! EasyAI has the following changes (read the README for more details): - EasyAI never builds arsenals or fortresses. - EasyAI never trains heroes or siege machines (though it can use captured ones) - EasyAI sends smaller attacks, around half the size of Petra's. - EasyAI takes much longer to phase up. - EasyAI trains less workers. - EasyAI builds less fields. I tested EasyAI against Petra, and Petra beats it consistently and severely. Let me know what you think of it. This is only version one, I might make some more changes in the future (EasyAI never betrays the player, EasyAI never captures buildings, etc.), but here it is: EasyAI.zip

Just tell me what is imbalanced…

so,let me get this clear: You think there is nothing particularly problematic with the balance in R28?

Polished Stone Age Jomon!!

Make an ai to simply counter/keep up a certain playstyle. I play turtle and I never send any troops, so call this Ai "Fat-Grubber" a literal no defense but it intends to maximise economy to keep up with my booming, fixing the issue of pathfinding harvesting resource, 8 or more second of total walk will require the building(I forgot whats its called) on a dense tree(beyond 5) in an area. No 2nd CC unless metal/stone is out, no towers will be built/fortress. It produce woman mostly at the start, 40-50 farmers, 12-24 on stone/metal depending on its civ, still using woman(uses only food). The army will take care of wood, produces barracks and cranks out amass amount of citizen footman, and no horseman/siege/elephant units. If it gets attack on a certain number of units(say 30/more), it will retreat and group up an army double/all that amount to counter my army. In C&C:TW. I played 1vs7 against easy nod. You know what they crank? Only infantry at the start. I get to enjoy hearing their shooting~ they make vehicles after some point but at the start man... I like seeing large blobs being rolled by my medium vehicle~~~ they hardly made any advanced vehicle if I recall. Another thing was they start building defense upon being attacked in base(so in 0a.d you can try to code the female workers to make mass amount of towers, followed with wooden walls to prevent my advance when I start attacking in their base). In conclusion, play with what the ai can build with its limited choice(depends on playstyle). Then improve the base mechanic for it to shine, I hope this helps you, yawn...

Imagine me building my first arrow ship and out of nowhere an enemy ai's ramming ship stocked with champions stole my ship and return to fog of war waiting for more oppurtunistic booty and I'm now officially landless for all eternity.

Buenos días, tardes o noches: ¿Adivinan de dónde son estos mapas americanos? (Aún en desarrollo) Disculpen las molestias*

Hi everyone, I'm here to give you an update on my World Rising project. The Jomon culture is 90% complete, only needing improvements to the watchtowers, rebuilding the walls, and creating the monument. I've made several adjustments regarding the order of construction, technology order, and units. I've been studying animation but haven't yet achieved the expected result; I'm studying more about it... here are some images from the Stone Age, which is 100% complete. I'll bring more news soon.

Will confirm soon

I'll get started on that (probably start by editing Petra, neve made a whole bot before) sometime soon, and see what I can come up with.

Well you could make a more friendly one and a more hostile one, then there would be three bots. A bot that better scales with difficulty settings might be another path. Petra has design limitations, you better create a new one with Petra as a guide only. Writing bots isn't easy but if you want to give it a try and it's fruitful then a lot of value can be added to 0ad.

If I were to make a more friendly bot and post it here, could it be packaged in the game? And then we can start improving Petra to be more challenging and realistic?

Petra is in maintenance mode, unlikely to get new features or at least not anytime soon. A bot can be created as a mod, such a bot could be bundled with the main game alongside Petra if it is mature. Keep in mind, Petra is generally considered to strong for new players, a newbie friendly bot could help getting more people into the game.

So, after both playing against and editing Petra, I have found several features that Petra needs to really stand a chance against a competent player. #1: Petra doesn't build walls. This is a real problem, since it leaves it open to anyone with some siege rams and a catapult or two. It also means that Petra never really acts like a real player, especially when set to defensive (when it should essentially just turtle). #2: Petra doesn't upgrade buildings or units. I know this is more minor, but it is important, as it means that the closer you get to the center, the weaker Petra is, since it built Sentry Towers in Village Phase (with little territory), then started building Defense Towers in Town Phase (as it spreads out). It would make Petra more challenging if it upgraded Sentry Towers to Defense Towers. This also has another problem: Petra never upgrades units, so it has to wait till City Phase to get the Centurions, when it could upgrade them as soon as they reach Elite Rank. Also, the Mauryan Maidens never switch from their melee version to their ranged version, which is a problem. #3: Petra doesn't turret on walls. While this requires walls (see #1), it is another thing that would be useful to add. I know it is too late to put these into A28, but maybe we should try to implement them for A29?

In this case, AI behavior during the game and replay viewing should NOT be linked in any way. I don't know the technical details, but for the user, replay viewing isn't a real game; they can't change anything; they simply follow the actions and analyze what was done during the match (and when exactly), for which the replay is saved. However, AI behavior in the match must be fair. That's all. When Shroud of Darkness and Fog of War aren't used by bots, but are used by real players, it's a completely unfair situation.

if something is considered a balance "emergency" it can be changed still, provided that it doesn't touch strings. There were some of these before the Han were introduced. I wouldn't put it that way, but that is what I typically work on. @Arup care to elaborate?