Civ: Germans (Cimbri, Suebians, Goths)

[Genava55]

3 minutes ago, nifa said:

So maybe a wonder could look something like that?

Do you have further references?

The only illustrative reference is from Ancient Warfare magazine but it is a sketchy simplification :

The boat was submerged with blacksmith tools, with wooden vessels and recipients, animals were sacrificed, notably a horse and two dogs. Spears and oars were thrust into the silty bottom to anchor it. There were dozen of spears and shields submerged with the boat.

 

[nifa]

2 hours ago, Genava55 said:

The only illustrative reference is from Ancient Warfare magazine but it is a sketchy simplification :

The boat was submerged with blacksmith tools, with wooden vessels and recipients, animals were sacrificed, notably a horse and two dogs. Spears and oars were thrust into the silty bottom to anchor it. There were dozen of spears and shields submerged with the boat.

 

Thanks. From an artistical point of view, filling a boat with props isn't that difficult, all models are existing already. I'm not sure how to display it in a bog though.

Edited November 10, 2025 by nifa

[Stan`]

You might try to make a weathered version of the boat texture to make it look like it's been there a little while.

[Carltonus]

Created a new work-in-progress Civ entry on the Wiki.

Better update the portraits ASAP? Especially the heroes... who was that doing the Han heroes and Cleopatra?

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

This is actually an excellent idea for a Wonder. Much better than the destroyed Roman army camp. 

[Genava55]

20 hours ago, nifa said:

Thanks. From an artistical point of view, filling a boat with props isn't that difficult, all models are existing already. I'm not sure how to display it in a bog though.

Yes, I think the game engine is not made for monuments related to specific landscape elements. I think we need to have some imagination in this case. We have some account of sacred groves and sanctuaries in Tacitus' Germania but those are not usable since we are narrowing the civ around the Cimbri. 

I think the best option is to make a huge deposit with multiple items, like a votive gift. 

You have a good idea with the stone boat around the monument: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_ship

I think we can make something bigger.

A large stone in an elongated circle with a pile of various weapons, trophies, and spoils of war inside. It should represent the spoils of war of the Cimbri during their wars against the Romans, Celts, Iberians, etc. Large cauldrons like those found in Brå, Keldby, Rynkeby on Funen, and Sophienborg Mose could be added. We could have chariots like the one from Dejbjerg. We could also have freshly sacrificed horses. And on top of this pile, we could add two boats, leaning against the pile of objects. They could be slightly tilted to give the monument a sense of height.

It would require making some props but it is feasible I think. 

Edited November 11, 2025 by Genava55

[real_tabasco_sauce]

@nifa I like the direction with the wonder. If the ship settings were supposed to be a monument or memorial, then perhaps we can imagine some decor that would be fitting. We may not even need the ship inside as the rocks were arranged in the shape of a ship.

[real_tabasco_sauce]

If you look at the actor for the encampment, it is an example of how you can use props to let an actor conform to the terrain.

[Genava55]

https://archaeology.org/news/2025/12/12/new-thoughts-on-denmarks-ancient-hjortspring-boat/

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0336965

 

[real_tabasco_sauce]

36 minutes ago, Genava55 said:

https://archaeology.org/news/2025/12/12/new-thoughts-on-denmarks-ancient-hjortspring-boat/

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0336965

 

Awesome work. Recovering a partial fingerprint is incredible!

[Genava55]

Map by Maptysk illustrating the various contributions from different material cultures to the formation of the Bastarnae (related to the Poienesti-Lucaseuca culture) 

[nifa]

spec and normal map related to germ_struct_03 seem to be existing twice and there is a redundant prop in an actor file that leads to the following missing prop point message:

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[nifa]

WIP. Thoughts on the concept in general?

Other than the deletion of unseen faces, any artistic or technical advise? What do you think of this kind of burial chamber? Is it ahistorical?

Two stones together (or three at both ends) make up a prop, that adapts to the terrain. Unfortunately the whole concept only works with a lot of props, and this is even without any plants or bushes:

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What would be an appropiate number of props? Any idea which props are worth to be added? Cadaver of a horse or human corpse, weapons, wagons etc? 

File's attached. Please test on different biomes and different terrains.

stone_ship.zip

Edited January 22 by nifa

[nifa]

@Genava55 I know they are predominantly from the viking era, but is there any chance the cimbri had runestones as well? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runestone

Edited January 22 by nifa

[Genava55]

42 minutes ago, nifa said:

runestones

The earliest evidence for runes is the Meldorf brooch, dated around 50 AD. So no runes for the Cimbri.

Petroglyph production declined sharply after 600 BC and it is really difficult to date a petroglyph. Furthermore, there is not a large quantity of petroglyphs in Denmark. Those were mostly found in Sweden and Norway. 

I would avoid petroglyphs for the Cimbri. 

1 hour ago, nifa said:

WIP. Thoughts on the concept in general?

It looks a lot like a boat burial, when a person is buried with a boat. Which is not attested for this period.

The sinking of the Hjortspring boat is more probably a votive deposit, an offering to deities, from a war booty or a trophy. 

Furthermore, you choose a very small boat and you emphasize much more on the stone circle. Which is a bit problematic because the boat is probably the most important part. 

[Genava55]

A documentary on the Angles during the Roman Iron Age (1 - 375) and Migration period (375 - 568).

A disclaimer: this video comes from the conservative sphere. This is a video that is fairly factual about archaeology and history. However, sharing the video here does not mean that we endorse all of the messages on this YouTube channel. Keep an open but critical mind.

[Ultimate Aurelian]

On 10/11/2025 at 8:42 AM, Genava55 said:

 

The only idea I can have specifically about the Cimbri, is the Hjortspring deposit. The boat was deposited in a small bog of approx. 50 m in diameter, in the middle of an island. I don't know if it is more practical.

https://arkeonews.net/2000-year-old-iron-age-temple-discovered-in-denmark-reveals-powerful-northern-european-center/

https://museummidtjylland.dk/hedegaard/

There is a recent find of a complex from Jutland, might be useful for Cimbrian wonder (somewhat of a Cimbrian equivalent to Gaul and Briton wonders.)

 

 

Edited yesterday at 04:17 by Ultimate Aurelian

[Obskiuras]

I would like this wall design to be implemented for the faction:

[Genava55]

12 hours ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

There is a recent find of a complex from Jutland, might be useful for Cimbrian wonder (somewhat of a Cimbrian equivalent to Gaul and Briton wonders.)

Here a translation of the description from the museum:

The sanctuary or temple, which is located in the southeastern corner of the fortification, perhaps within a demarcated parcel. It has burned down, and beneath the destruction layer we found traces of two temple phases.

The entire structure measures 15×16 m and is almost rectangular. On the outside, there is a deep trench (dug almost 2 m below the surface) in which sturdy round wooden posts stood at intervals of 30 cm. Inside this outer building, there was a smaller, yet still very sturdily constructed building or "room", 9.5 m long and 5.7 m wide, with an entrance to the south. Between the outer colonnade and the inner building, there are traces of a clay floor. The roof must therefore have extended all the way over the colonnade, covering the entire structure.

The inner structure rests on four deeply founded load-bearing posts, and the wall is constructed of vertical oak planks. Finds of plaster suggest that the walls were plastered with a whitish and perhaps painted layer of plaster. Exactly in the middle of the inner building, there is a 2×2 m raised area built of solid clay; on top of this, in the youngest phase, lies an ornamented hearth that partially covers the hearth of the oldest temple, which is visible as a very intensely burnt zone in the clay.

Here, it is very clear how the youngest temple was shifted approximately 75 cm to the north compared to the older temple, but otherwise it is nearly identical to the oldest temple. In connection with the rebuilding, the floor in the inner building was leveled. Only the older hearth remained untouched; the new one was simply laid directly over it. Preliminary results suggest that the temple functioned in the decades right around the time of Christ, and the younger temple may also turn out to be contemporary with the rebuilding of the village and the fortification of the central farm.

[Ultimate Aurelian]

10 hours ago, Genava55 said:

Here a translation of the description from the museum:

The sanctuary or temple, which is located in the southeastern corner of the fortification, perhaps within a demarcated parcel. It has burned down, and beneath the destruction layer we found traces of two temple phases.

The entire structure measures 15×16 m and is almost rectangular. On the outside, there is a deep trench (dug almost 2 m below the surface) in which sturdy round wooden posts stood at intervals of 30 cm. Inside this outer building, there was a smaller, yet still very sturdily constructed building or "room", 9.5 m long and 5.7 m wide, with an entrance to the south. Between the outer colonnade and the inner building, there are traces of a clay floor. The roof must therefore have extended all the way over the colonnade, covering the entire structure.

The inner structure rests on four deeply founded load-bearing posts, and the wall is constructed of vertical oak planks. Finds of plaster suggest that the walls were plastered with a whitish and perhaps painted layer of plaster. Exactly in the middle of the inner building, there is a 2×2 m raised area built of solid clay; on top of this, in the youngest phase, lies an ornamented hearth that partially covers the hearth of the oldest temple, which is visible as a very intensely burnt zone in the clay.

Here, it is very clear how the youngest temple was shifted approximately 75 cm to the north compared to the older temple, but otherwise it is nearly identical to the oldest temple. In connection with the rebuilding, the floor in the inner building was leveled. Only the older hearth remained untouched; the new one was simply laid directly over it. Preliminary results suggest that the temple functioned in the decades right around the time of Christ, and the younger temple may also turn out to be contemporary with the rebuilding of the village and the fortification of the central farm.

Does it say what the smaller enclosure  was? (the  small enclosure outside)

Edited 14 hours ago by Ultimate Aurelian

[Ultimate Aurelian]

On 25/09/2025 at 6:39 PM, Genava55 said:

I will share interesting maps and threads from @Maptysk from twitter.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1970760638709354543.html

https://x.com/Maptysk/status/1970760638709354543

Here a copy paste of his thread on the Suebi / Elbe Germanic people :

Map of Archaeological Finds of the Suebi/Elbe germanic Groups and the Alamanni, with Quotes from Tacitus.

The Suebi were the largest and most powerful tribal confederation in Germania, constituting of the Hermunduri, Semnones, Langobards, Warini, Markomanni, Quadi, Naristi, Marsingi and Buri.

 

 

https://maptism.org/maps/germanic-tribes-2nd-century/

 

https://x.com/Maptysk/status/2027476111148343343

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2027476111148343343.html

 

I find it interesting that the Friisi are their own thing and the Cherusci are included in Rhine Germans (rather than having both in the same  North-Sea group of the Chauci)

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Ultimate Aurelian

[Genava55]

5 hours ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

I find it interesting that the Friisi are their own thing and the Cherusci are included in Rhine Germans (rather than having both in the same  North-Sea group of the Chauci)

You can find more information about them here: https://www.academia.edu/124853492/Meanwhile_in_the_North_Handmade_Pottery_beyond_the_Roman_Frontier

At least it explains why they are separated on this map. Although the Old Frisian is related to Old English and Old Saxon, this is maybe a feature happening during Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages. Maybe it was not the case during the Iron Age. 

13 hours ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

Does it say what the smaller enclosure  was? (the  small enclosure outside)

A sacrificial scene takes place in a fenced area right in front of the temple. The temple is the building on the right. The main building is seen on the left, and in the background, the palisade is under construction. Craftspeople are working in the area between the two buildings. In this case, the drawing is primarily based on our results from the 2025 excavation.

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News

Right now, you can listen to two current podcasts about Hedegård and learn more about its history. One is the podcast (and video) 'Leth møder Moesgaard', where archaeologist and senior researcher at Moesgaard, Xenia Pauli Jensen, talks about Hedegård in the episode 'Mysteriet på den midtjyske pløjemark' (The Mystery in the Central Jutland Ploughed Field). In the second podcast, our very own Martin Winther Olesen, archaeologist and museum curator, visits the podcast Bogen Lever – Hemmeligheder i Hedegård (The Book Lives – Secrets in Hedegård). Check out all the many other articles about Hedegård at the bottom of this page!

Hedegård Year 1

An impression of what Hedegård might have looked like

In the spring of 2026, the working group behind UNDER PRES—consisting of archaeologists and researchers from Museum Midtjylland, Moesgaard, and Museum Horsens—collaborated with illustrator Kristian Bay Kirk to create reconstruction drawings of Hedegård. The drawings show some of the insights gained from the 2024 and 2025 excavations. The overview drawing shows the village with its fortified structure as it may have looked just after the birth of Christ. In the foreground is the Skjern River valley, and in the background is the burial ground. The drawing was created based on the original excavations of the burial ground, geophysical surveys of the entire area, and notably the 2024 excavations, which uncovered the northernmost parts of the fortified area.

The detailed drawing provides an atmospheric scene where we have moved inside the fortification. A sacrificial scene takes place in a fenced area right in front of the temple. The temple is the building on the right. The main building is on the left, and in the background, the palisade is under construction. Craftspeople are working in the area between the two buildings. In this case, the drawing is primarily based on our results from the 2025 excavation.

The Excavation

Together with Museum Horsens and Moesgaard Museum, archaeologists from Museum Midtjylland excavated at Hedegård in the summers of 2024 and 2025. Hedegård contains Scandinavia's largest and richest burial ground and Denmark's largest settlement from the century around the birth of Christ.

Hedegård is situated on a prominent ridge on the north side of the Skjern River, approximately 8 km west of the river's source and the Ancient Road (Hærvejen). At its maximum extent, the village area covers approximately 4 hectares and is surrounded by a heavy fence. A large chieftain’s farm (storgård) is located in the northwestern part of the village area. Here, traces showed that gold, bronze, iron, and amber smiths were at work, and the farm also contained a sacred building—perhaps a temple. The entire farm covers approximately 6,500 m² and was also surrounded by a separate fence. Shortly after the birth of Christ, the farm was fortified. The fence was replaced by an 8-meter-wide system consisting of two parallel rows of deeply buried, split posts, surrounded on three sides by a V-shaped ditch. The two rows must have supported an elevated platform and a parapet from which the fortification could be defended.

Why Are We Excavating?

In the late 1980s, archaeologists from Horsens Museum excavated the Iron Age burial ground at Hedegård near Ejstrupholm. Here, archaeologists found far more rich graves filled with imports from Southern and Central Europe and far more weapon graves than normal. The village area was identified, and since then it has been a mystery why Jylland's largest and richest site turned out to be at this exact location. You can read more about the history of the burial ground further down this page. The current research project "Under Pres" (Under Pressure) focuses on events in South Scandinavia between 60 BC and approx. 20 AD. This was a period of upheaval in Europe. The existing order (Celtic Europe) was overthrown by Roman expansion, and for a number of years, the new superpower stood right at the Elbe. They may have wished to continue their expansion up into Jylland, and they certainly acted diplomatically and politically in the borderlands. However, after a defeat in 9 AD, the Romans gradually abandoned their ambitions to occupy the area between the Rhine and the Elbe, establishing themselves along the Rhine in the following years. It is our hypothesis that the pressure from and contact with the Romans led to significant reactions, including in Central Jutland, and that one of the best places to see this is at Hedegård. So in 2024, Museum Midtjylland, Museum Horsens, and Moesgaard Museum excavated at Hedegård once again. The purpose was to get an idea of the broad lines of what happened at Hedegård about 2,000 years ago and how it connects to developments in the rest of Europe. Among other things, we investigated the fortification, which consisted of a heavy palisade built from two parallel rows of deeply buried, split posts. An exciting surprise was that there was also a sanctuary—a temple—within the palisade. In August 2025, the three museums excavated at Hedegård again—this time focusing on the sanctuary.

Results 2024 & 2025

What did the archaeologists find in 2024 & 2025?

The very large village emerged in the last century BC. In the period leading up to the birth of Christ, it truly flourished. It is during this period that we see the rich graves and numerous weapon graves in the burial ground north of the village. It is also during this period that luxury goods, prestige items, and weapons from both the Celtic world in Southern Europe and Roman workshops found their way to Hedegård. At the same time, the central area emerged with a main building, several workshops where gold, bronze, iron, and amber smiths worked, and finally a building interpreted as a central sanctuary—a temple.

Map of the oldest phase

Around the time of Christ, there are traces of an extensive fire, followed by a cleanup and leveling of the central area. Immediately afterward, the impressive 8-meter-wide fortification was erected, enclosing the entire central area (6,500 m²) with a high double palisade and an open ditch in front. Simultaneously, a new central building was rebuilt inside the palisade. The fortification now shows a clear model in the Roman military fortification tradition. However, it appears that the fortification was decommissioned relatively quickly, and during the 1st century, the intense activity seemingly faded out completely.

Map of the youngest phase

The sanctuary or temple, located in the southeastern corner of the fortification, perhaps within a delimited plot, burned down. Under the burn layer, we found traces of two temple phases. The entire structure measures 15 × 16 meters and is nearly rectangular. On the outside, there is a deep trench (dug nearly 2 meters below the surface) containing sturdy round wooden posts spaced 30 cm apart. Inside this outer structure, there was a smaller but still very heavily constructed building or "room," 9.5 meters long and 5.7 meters wide, with an entrance to the south.

Photo cross-section seen through the floor and roof-bearing posts

Traces of a clay floor exist between the outer colonnade and the inner building. The roof must have extended over the colonnade, covering the entire structure. The inner structure rests on four deeply set roof-bearing posts, and the walls are built of vertical oak planks. Finds of plaster suggest that the walls were rendered with a whitish, possibly painted layer of plaster. Directly in the center of the inner building is a 2 × 2 meter raised area made of solid clay. On top of this, in the youngest phase, lies an ornamented hearth that partially covers the hearth of the older temple, which appears as a heavily burned zone in the clay.

Photo of the ornamented hearth

Here it is very clear how the younger temple moved approximately 75 cm north compared to the older temple, but otherwise, it is nearly identical. In connection with the remodeling, the floor of the inner building was leveled; only the older hearth remained untouched, with the new one simply laid directly over it. Preliminary results suggest that the temple functioned in the decades right around the time of Christ, and the younger temple may also prove to be contemporaneous with the rebuilding of the village and the fortification of the central farm.

Map with the farm's oldest (green) and youngest (red) phase

Our investigations only partially penetrate the unique and well-preserved layers, and we do not know if the temple has even older phases. Inside the temple, everything was cleaned up very thoroughly before it was finally burned down, so there are almost no finds showing what took place. What remained, however, was of rare high quality: two very special glass beads that were likely produced in the Middle East or Egypt.

Photo of beads found at Hedegård

One must imagine a nearly square building—tall and tower-like—with an exterior colonnade. The enclosed inner room was only partially visible from the outside. Inside the inner building, the hearth was the central, dominant element. We do not know what rituals took place, but the central placement of the hearth, its size, and the fact that it remained untouched during rebuilding suggest it played a crucial role. Perhaps it was the altar where priests sacrificed and maintained an "eternal flame." The temple is placed right in the center of the earliest phase of the surrounding village, a feature shared with some contemporary large Celtic towns in Central Europe—so-called "Oppida." Thus, there may be a unified concept behind the entire master plan for the temple, main farm, village, and burial ground.

Photo cleaning of the temple area

Hedegård exhibits architectural features and artifacts from both the "old" Celtic culture in Central Europe and the new, expansive Roman culture, placing it right at the point of tension between the two. Hedegård remains quite unique in Northern European archaeology. This combined visualization of military, economic, and religious power is currently unprecedented at such an early date. It is therefore very likely that the military and political tensions arising between established power structures and the Roman advance in Central Europe form the backdrop for Hedegård's extraordinary establishment and development. We do not know the underlying political structures—it may be wrong and premature to speak of an emerging monarchy—but in 2024, the excavations certainly attracted great attention, including from the royal family.

HM Queen Margrethe II visiting

This merely summarizes some of the results from recent years' excavations. Many scientific analyses are in progress and will refine, and perhaps alter, the picture.

History of the Burial Ground

In 1986–93, an extraordinary burial ground was excavated near Nørre Snede, right on the edge of the Skjern River valley. Individual archaeological finds from here give us indications of what happened in the decades around the birth of Christ. A very special find was made at the burial ground in the form of a 'pugio', a dagger belonging to Roman legionaries. However, it is not only the pugio that is exceptional; the burial ground contained far more weapon graves than normal, and it turned out to be located just outside a very large, fenced village. Recent geophysical surveys and the 2024–2025 excavations show us that the village also contained a large, fortified farm with a central sanctuary. Through the last few years of excavations, we have begun exploring a previously neglected chapter of Danish history: How did the Roman occupation of large parts of Europe actually affect us here at home?

Roman bronze dish with handles shaped like vine leaves. The dish was produced in Capua near Naples between 100 and 50 BC and used as an urn for a 13-year-old boy in Hedegård in the decades just before Christ.

Pugio

One of the graves excavated in 1986–93 contained an incredibly beautifully decorated Roman dagger—a so-called 'pugio'. The pugio from this burial ground is in a class of its own. This type of dagger belonged exclusively to Roman legionaries and officers. The dagger is so rare outside the borders of the Roman Empire that it immediately raises questions: how did it end up in Central Jutland, who was the owner, and what is the story behind it? Until now, we have interpreted Roman artifacts in graves as expressions of alliances and trade across borders. Could the pugio be an alliance gift to a local chieftain or nobleman, perhaps in connection with the future Emperor Tiberius's naval expedition up the west coast of Jutland in 5 AD? Or is it war booty? Precisely at that time, the Romans had occupied all of Gaul up to the Rhine and were maintaining pressure up toward the Elbe. Heavy fighting took place, including near the border of modern-day Denmark, culminating in 9 AD at the Battle of Teutoburg Forest near present-day Osnabrück, Germany. In any case, the dagger points to a situation where war and conflict characterized all of Europe.

The Roman soldier's dagger with its accompanying scabbard, spearhead, knife, and scissors.

National and International Cooperation

The excavations at Hedegård took place in collaboration between archaeologists from Museum Horsens, Moesgaard Museum, and Museum Midtjylland. Three teams of archaeology students from Aarhus University and the University of Copenhagen, as well as students from the School of Conservation, participated in the excavation. Their help and inspiration were invaluable. A large number of colleagues from Denmark and abroad also visited the excavations and shared their knowledge and interest, for which we are deeply grateful.

Many Thanks To

The excavations in 2024 and 2025 took place under the joint research project 'UNDER PRES', funded by the Augustinus Foundation, the Agency for Culture and Palaces, Ikast-Brande Municipality, and the three museums. The project is also supported by a number of local sponsors. Many thanks also to the Ministry of Culture's Research Fund for support in 2024. Last but not least, we would like to extend a big thank you to the fantastic, tolerant landowners who made their fields available for the investigations.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Genava55

[Duileoga]

5 hours ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

https://maptism.org/maps/germanic-tribes-2nd-century/

 

https://x.com/Maptysk/status/2027476111148343343

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2027476111148343343.html

 

I find it interesting that the Friisi are their own thing and the Cherusci are included in Rhine Germans (rather than having both in the same  North-Sea group of the Chauci)

 

Buenos días, tardes :

-Para la 3ª facción germana elegí a los "Queruscos" la reconstrucción más fiel de sus guerreros y arquitectura y por los nombre históricos .Miré otras tribus como Sicambrios o Catos pero llegaban a 6 personajes históricos y mínimo deberían tener 8 o más, para los mapas más grandes.Además de que el héroe Arminio ya está creado y creo que hay más interés en esta tribu y la batalla de Teutoburgo.Ejemplo:

Sicambrios:

1.    Antharius-----------------( )55 a.C 
2.    Melo ----------------------( )16 a.c 
3.    Baetorix ------------------( )16 a.C 
4.    Deutorix------------------ ( )9 d.C 
 

Chatti

6.    Adgandestrius ------------( ) 11 a.C-19 d.C 
7.    Gandestrius----------------( ) 9 d.C 
8.    Arpus ---------------------( ) 9-16 d.C 
9.    Actumerus ----------------( ) 9-16 d.C 
10.    Gandemeerus------------( ) 9-16 d.C 
11.    Ucromirus-----------------( ) 9-16 d.C 
 

(También,muchos de los héroes de los queruscos nacieron antes de 1d.c entrando dentro de los estándares del mod Endovélico.Aunque en el juego aparezca Boadicea, no quiero extender en general tanto las fechas para el mod.)

¿Qué opinan?

 

Disculpen me las molestias*

[Genava55]

6 minutes ago, Duileoga said:

(También,muchos de los héroes de los queruscos nacieron antes de 1d.c entrando dentro de los estándares del mod Endovélico.Aunque en el juego aparezca Boadicea, no quiero extender en general tanto las fechas para el mod.)

En cualquier caso, este mapa muestra los pueblos germánicos en el siglo II de nuestra era.

[Ultimate Aurelian]

52 minutes ago, Duileoga said:

Buenos días, tardes :

-Para la 3ª facción germana elegí a los "Queruscos" la reconstrucción más fiel de sus guerreros y arquitectura y por los nombre históricos .Miré otras tribus como Sicambrios o Catos pero llegaban a 6 personajes históricos y mínimo deberían tener 8 o más, para los mapas más grandes.Además de que el héroe Arminio ya está creado y creo que hay más interés en esta tribu y la batalla de Teutoburgo.Ejemplo:

Sicambrios:

1.    Antharius-----------------( )55 a.C 
2.    Melo ----------------------( )16 a.c 
3.    Baetorix ------------------( )16 a.C 
4.    Deutorix------------------ ( )9 d.C 
 

Chatti

6.    Adgandestrius ------------( ) 11 a.C-19 d.C 
7.    Gandestrius----------------( ) 9 d.C 
8.    Arpus ---------------------( ) 9-16 d.C 
9.    Actumerus ----------------( ) 9-16 d.C 
10.    Gandemeerus------------( ) 9-16 d.C 
11.    Ucromirus-----------------( ) 9-16 d.C 
 

(También,muchos de los héroes de los queruscos nacieron antes de 1d.c entrando dentro de los estándares del mod Endovélico.Aunque en el juego aparezca Boadicea, no quiero extender en general tanto las fechas para el mod.)

¿Qué opinan?

 

Disculpen me las molestias*

 

46 minutes ago, Genava55 said:

En cualquier caso, este mapa muestra los pueblos germánicos en el siglo II de nuestra era.

Perhaps Cherusci could be included within a North Sea (Ingvaeones?) or Rhine German (Istvaeones? Tungri?) civilization.

Problem would be deciding on which one they fit.

To further complicate things some sources apparently call them Irminones like the Suebi...maybe they work better as their own single civ in the end considering how it seems to defy classificaton.

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The Suevi and Vandali part is easy, they correlate to the Herminones and Lugi or form a part of them. The Suebi might be a more restrictive classification, as the Cherusci and Chatti are sometimes counted among the Herminones, but not the Suebi.

 

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