Lion.Kanzen Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 @stanislas69 @mapkoc @elexis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladislavbelov Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 On 20/04/2018 at 1:26 PM, Lion.Kanzen said: @stanislas69 @mapkoc @elexis Expand Text overflow or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) On 20/04/2018 at 1:38 PM, vladislavbelov said: Text overflow or what? Expand Is good use that program(hacking) cheat engine to in a non cheat multiplayer lobby make cheat and add extra resources? -sarcasm- Reveal hidden contents Quote Cheat Engine is an open source tool designed to help you with modifying single player games running under window so you can make them harder or easier depending on your preference(e.g: Find that 100hp is too easy, try playing a game with a max of 1 HP), but also contains other usefull tools to help debugging games and even normal applications, and helps you protect your system by letting you inspect memory modifications by backdoors and even contains some ways to unhide them from conventional means. It comes with a memory scanner to quickly scan for variables used within a game and allow you to change them, but it also comes with a debugger, disassembler, assembler, speedhack, trainer maker, direct 3D manipulation tools, system inspection tools and more. Besides these tools it also comes with extensive scripting support which will allow experienced developers to create their own applications with easy and share them with other people For new users it is recommended to go through the tutorial(The one that comes with Cheat Engine, you can find it in your programs list after installing) and at least reach step 5 for basic understanding of the usage of Cheat Engine. https://www.cheatengine.org/aboutce.php In this case they success in MP lobby. Expand Edited April 20, 2018 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcxSanya Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 This should cause OOS in multiplayer games (and if doesn't, the hash calculation has to be modified to notice such changes). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladislavbelov Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 On 20/04/2018 at 1:47 PM, Lion.Kanzen said: Is good use that program(hacking) cheat engine to in a non cheat multiplayer lobby make cheat and add extra resources? -sarcasm- Expand Ah, you meant cheats. The user was a server, so he controls his state, but any player, that will try connect to him during his memory changes, will get an OOS error. Also Cheat Engine is real overhead in this case, since a user can modify JS files, particularly simulation things. So the game isn't actually hacked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elexis Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Memory modification tools are fun, but indeed this won't transfer to multiplayer games as fcxSanya mentioned. Even if someone modifies the simulation hash he sends to the server, the other players still didn't see the player cheating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 On 20/04/2018 at 3:15 PM, elexis said: Memory modification tools are fun, but indeed this won't transfer to multiplayer games as fcxSanya mentioned. Even if someone modifies the simulation hash he sends to the server, the other players still didn't see the player cheating. Expand Thank you, I'm not technical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mapkoc Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 The guy in the video is saying that this works sometimes in multiplayer games. Maybe it's worth trying or maybe@Hannibal_Barcacould track sanvalentindem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elexis Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 The only thing transmitted in multiplayer games are the orders, exactly the same contents as the commands.txt in replays. The command can only be executed if the game as it is downloaded allows it. Memory modification and arbitrary cheats certainly work in multiplayer, but they are only visible to the player that executes them, not to the other players. The interesting hacks and cheats are the ones that are unnoticed bugs in the game. Hannibal can sing some songs of those (sheep walls, patrol dance, luring gaia by placing outposts near the enemies are only some things that come to my mind). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcxSanya Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 Tried it just in case: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feldfeld Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 On 21/04/2018 at 10:57 AM, elexis said: The command can only be executed if the game as it is downloaded allows it. Expand So, if my opponent cheats, it would be incompatible with my game and would trigger an out of sync because according to my game the opponent has less ressources. But does that mean that this cheat engine could at least monitor opponents' ressources ? If it is available in the memory of my game. Or does it works another way ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elexis Posted April 21, 2018 Report Share Posted April 21, 2018 https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/SimulationRequirements#Cheatprevention 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal_Barca Posted April 22, 2018 Report Share Posted April 22, 2018 On 21/04/2018 at 10:57 AM, elexis said: Hannibal can sing some songs of those (sheep walls, patrol dance, luring gaia by placing outposts near the enemies are only some things that come to my mind). Expand Layering, baiting, dance (hand), dance (formation) and mountain-scaling can be added to the list (besides the numerous anti-gaia strategies) Discovering and exploiting bugs is a very thrilling pastime. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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