Genava55 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 30/12/2018 at 6:10 PM, Genava55 said: An example of a male warrior burial with a simple armring: Expand For the size of the sword @Alexandermb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 On 02/01/2019 at 3:37 PM, Alexandermb said: The mistletoe headdres? i'll be doing it soon . Expand If it helps you, the wire suspected to be this kind of headdress found in a burial in Germany: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 On 02/02/2019 at 4:37 PM, Genava55 said: If it helps you, the wire suspected to be this kind of headdress found in a burial in Germany: Expand There was another picture with that headdres: Reveal hidden contents 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) On 05/01/2019 at 10:46 AM, Genava55 said: For levy unit, there is an attested cap found on relief. It could be useful for variation in the basic versions of some unit: Reveal hidden contents For the wicker shield attested in Gauls (according to Caesar), it could be useful for the javelin thrower: Reveal hidden contents Bonus (1950s): Expand For the textile / leather cap, how EBII depicted them: Cisalpine warriors from EBII: Reveal hidden contents Armorican warriors from EBII: Reveal hidden contents Germanic units from EBII: Reveal hidden contents Edited February 5, 2019 by Genava55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandermb Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 @wackyserious maybe we could use this in the meantime if you have something planned for later: On 07/11/2017 at 10:22 PM, wackyserious said: A (very) minor update. Expand In the current state the brit champion texture terrible compared to the rest of the units, because of the low texture resolution it has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 02/11/2019 at 4:01 AM, Alexandermb said: @wackyserious maybe we could use this in the meantime if you have something planned for later: In the current state the brit champion texture terrible compared to the rest of the units, because of the low texture resolution it has. Expand current champion is discarded... Genava said isn't accurate unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 question @Genava55 why celtic teams use this pattern? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 I founded. Quote Expand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphydian Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 04/02/2019 at 8:04 PM, Genava55 said: Germanic units from EBII: Reveal hidden contents what exact variants of celtic helmets are they wearing? Expand 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Aurelian Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) On 08/06/2020 at 8:16 PM, Orphydian said: what exact variants of celtic helmets are they wearing? Expand These are Lugians (Celticized eastern germanics, ancestors of the vandals). The iron ones are sometimes called Port helmet; they were more common in Gaul but there are finds of them in the east like the Simiechow helmet. The bronze one is a pretty generic; it seems to have a lip on the back so maybe it's a Coolus. Edited June 8, 2020 by Ultimate Aurelian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphydian Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) I see that as a simplified Siemechow type isnt it ? actually I like the general shape more than the original finding Edited June 8, 2020 by Orphydian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Aurelian Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 08/06/2020 at 9:07 PM, Orphydian said: I see that as a simplified Siemechow type isnt it ? actually I like the general shape more than the original finding Expand You mean the bronze one ? I think it's likely a Coolus variant (There are no examples of bronze Port helmets); although Germans did sometimes remove the cheekguards on looted helmets. This is a Roman helmet modified by Batavians: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphydian Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) nah the iron one. It seems like that exact subsubvariant lol of Port/Siemenchow must to have existed. it has some very nice shape. I ll have to asked more the EB II about this helmet and better images for it Edited June 8, 2020 by Orphydian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) On 08/06/2020 at 9:07 PM, Orphydian said: Siemechow type Expand The Port helmet is thought to be the ancestor of the Imperial Gallic series. Initially the Siemechow helmet has been thought to be a Roman helmet but recent historians highlighted the similarity with other late version of Celtic helmets in the East. The Eastern helmets didn't have a consistent type in the literature but they are clearly close to the Port type. A generic "Mihovo type" has been used but not consistently. The problem with the "Eastern Celtic type" is the misleading usage, confusing Montefortino-like Eastern helmets with the Port-like Eastern helmets. But anyway, I checked it is clearly the Siemechow type that has been used in the concept of the Lugian Late Swordsmen (I recently entered the team). On 08/06/2020 at 9:01 PM, Ultimate Aurelian said: The bronze one is a pretty generic; it seems to have a lip on the back so maybe it's a Coolus. Expand Sort of. I think they added this generic bronze helmet to several elite germanic units because they faced the issue of the overwhelming absence of any evidence surrounding this topic for the Pre-Roman Iron Age. So it is not officially a Coolus but... it is like one. Edited June 8, 2020 by Genava55 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphydian Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Ill continue the topic of the Eastern celtic helmets on the ..celtic helmets thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Aurelian Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 08/06/2020 at 9:32 PM, Orphydian said: nah the iron one. It seems like that exact subsubvariant lol of Port/Siemenchow have to have existed. I ll have to asked more the EB II about this helmet and better images for it Expand It's also possible that they speculated and gave them a similar helmet from other region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Aurelian Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 08/06/2020 at 9:38 PM, Genava55 said: Sort of. I think they added this generic bronze helmet to several elite germanic units because they faced the issue of the overwhelming absence of any evidence surrounding this topic for the Pre-Roman Iron Age. So it is not officially a Coolus but... it is like one. Expand It reminds me a bit of the Dusseldorf helmet but without horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 08/06/2020 at 9:25 PM, Ultimate Aurelian said: This is a Roman helmet modified by Batavians: Expand The Coolus-Mannheim are exclusively in Bronze while the Gelduba is in iron (yes the rust make it misleading at the first sight). And it is probably a Weisenau (Imperial Gallic) modified helmet (or a very late Port like helmet). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Aurelian Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 08/06/2020 at 9:49 PM, Genava55 said: The Coolus-Mannheim are exclusively in Bronze while the Gelduba is in iron (yes the rust make it misleading at the first sight). And it is probably a Weisenau (Imperial Gallic) modified helmet (or a very late Port like helmet). Expand Do you think the Gelduba helmet had horns ? I know it was found with horns, but not sure if they belonged to another item. There is a bump (In red) in the side that may have been a attachment point, or maybe it's just damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) On 08/06/2020 at 9:48 PM, Ultimate Aurelian said: It reminds me a bit of the Dusseldorf helmet but without horns. Expand Yes it is a common design for helmet, although the Dusseldorf is maybe linked to Italic and Greco-Italic helmets because of the back neck-guard. However it was an old analogy made in the literature so it is only a hypothesis. Sadly the origin of the Dusseldorf helmet is obscure and the dating is entirely based on the typology/technology... which is not certain either. On 08/06/2020 at 9:55 PM, Ultimate Aurelian said: Do you think the Gelduba helmet had horns ? Expand Probably not. At least I never seen an author suggesting this. The bump seems a bit small for a fixation. Maybe it is a repair. Edited June 8, 2020 by Genava55 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Aurelian Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) On 08/06/2020 at 10:00 PM, Genava55 said: Probably not. At least I never seen an author suggesting this. The bump seems a bit small for a fixation. Maybe it is a repair. Expand I was wrong about it being found alongside horns. I mistook it for the somewhat similar Kessel helmet. Edited June 10, 2020 by Ultimate Aurelian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted August 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Took inspiration from this Bannerlord mod asset. Shawl armor shape was inspired from the circular chain mail shoulder pads seen in some contemporary illustrations, I used padded cloth instead. What are your thoughts on this? @Genava55 and others 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) Reveal hidden contents You should stay far away from this mod because this is among the least reliable. There is not a single thing correct in this asset and in this mod in general. I tried to talk with the main leader of the project but he is quite sensitive and it is impossible to discuss the general issue with his mod. Somehow, he believes that the person advising him on the historical evidences is very reliable while clearly this is not the case, even the Roman assets are completely out of frame and poorly done. I have the feeling to see some guys in Rome dressed as centurions for the tourists with peplum's like outfits. On 09/08/2020 at 11:27 AM, wackyserious said: What are your thoughts on this? @Genava55 and others Expand No evidences for this kind of pads. The belt buckle is totally anachronistic, this kind of buckle were popularized by the Romans. The cheekguards of the helmet are weirdly decorated with some kind of cavemen symbols. The texture is ugly as hell by the way. A Gallic belt close to the Gallic Wars looks like this: On 09/08/2020 at 11:27 AM, wackyserious said: Took inspiration from this Bannerlord mod asset. Shawl armor shape was inspired from the circular chain mail shoulder pads seen in some contemporary illustrations, I used padded cloth instead. Expand This kind of shoulder pads is indeed attested, although this is a shape better suited for chain mail. Padded clothes could have been in use, there is a possible account of this on the arch of Orange. However there is no shoulder pads on it. I don't have any real issue with your choice. However the soft leather armor is simply useless. This is a kind of subarmalis and it protects almost nothing. EBII made a kind of linothorax for a Celtic unit that could interest you: Based on this reference Edited August 9, 2020 by Genava55 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted August 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 Thank you for clarifying things. Here are some old light armor textures that are not yet incorporated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 On 09/08/2020 at 2:49 PM, wackyserious said: Here are some old light armor textures that are not yet incorporated. Expand That's not bad, maybe the tunic is a bit too long and looks like a robe. It shouldn't go lower that the end of the pteryges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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