Genava55 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 19 hours ago, nifa said: Should I make a stone baba and steles from the deer stones culture or would that be ahistorical? This stone baba is from the Scythian period so no issue. The deer stone pillar is a bit older vut it is fine, it was still used by the Scythians even if they didn't build it. For the sake of diversity we can let it pass through. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nifa Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 @Genava55 Great, thanks! My plan is to create 5 or 6 steles (2 potato heads, 2 deer stones, 1-2 babas). @wowgetoffyourcellphone When all meshes are ready and I have a final UV layout I'm gonna bake it again. I need to tweak the normal strength again. On the first one the stone texture normals are too strong and the highpoly normal is too weak. I added ambient occlusion to my material setup, no idea why it didn't bake that, but I'll find a way to add shadow. When everything is baked I could add some moss/ weathering effects/ bird @#$% with texturepaint. When all is done I plan to use them for the kurgan wonder that I'm already working on. @real_tabasco_sauce Are there models that would only need existing textures? I could try to make a mesh then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 4 hours ago, nifa said: @Genava55 @wowgetoffyourcellphone @real_tabasco_sauce Are there models that would only need existing textures? I could try to make a mesh then We need new textures. Something that differentiates the Scythians cultures and the Xiongnu culture. -The dock does not even have a conceptual design. The same goes for the stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_tabasco_sauce Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 5 hours ago, nifa said: @real_tabasco_sauce Are there models that would only need existing textures? I could try to make a mesh then I think all but the royal yurt and maybe the scythian version of the ovoo would need models. I think the royal yurt could just be a more decorated version of the current yurt (house), maybe using more luxurious prop points as well. The ovoo would be more complicated. Overall, the structure would be similar to the xiongnu one but made of stacked wood. Also, I don't know if the flags were used by the scythians like the xiongnu have on their ovoo. And then in general, we have a problem where the yurt fabric for scythians and xiongnu looks very similar across the board like @Lion.Kanzen said. Maybe a move to use more hides or skins for one civ, maybe xiongnu, could help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_tabasco_sauce Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 @wowgetoffyourcellphone can a structure have both terrain hugging elements (like a wheat field) and a model? If so, the dock could just be a smallish yurt with the skeleton of a boat next to it, a fire, and a rope ladder used to slide boats into the water. The rope ladder could just behave the same way as farms so that it doesn't hover over the shore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 (edited) 57 minutes ago, real_tabasco_sauce said: I think the royal yurt could just be a more decorated version of the current yurt (house), maybe using more luxurious prop points as well According to Ai, royal yurts should be larger and made of the best materials and with expensive details, that is, fabrics and props. Edited April 17 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 8 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said: According to Ai, royal yurts should be larger and made of the best materials and with expensive details, that is, fabrics and props. From what I could see it is like a conical volcano shape, With a detail that can vary, making a Dome or simply open like a chimney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nifa Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 mockup for how the royal kurgan as wonder for the scythians could look like 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 3 hours ago, nifa said: mockup for how the royal kurgan as wonder for the scythians could look like beautiful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nifa Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 (edited) What do you guys think about this setup? Seems to me round is better than square. Also not sure where to place the steles. Could put one or more on top as well. Since most of these is organic stuff I don't see much possibilities for repetitive texture usage in the uv (despite reusing the stones), or am I missing something? Edited May 24 by nifa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_tabasco_sauce Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 47 minutes ago, nifa said: What do you guys think about this setup? Seems to me round is better than square. Also not sure where to place the steles. Could put one or more on top as well. Since most of these is organic stuff I don't see much possibilities for repetitive texture usage in the uv (despite reusing the stones), or am I missing something? I think that looks really good. Personally, I'd recommend using a slightly different color for the dirt mound part because it is very similar to the color of the stones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nifa Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 7 minutes ago, real_tabasco_sauce said: I think that looks really good. Personally, I'd recommend using a slightly different color for the dirt mound part because it is very similar to the color of the stones. Thanks! yes I will definately add some green for grass or moss, maybe small stones etc. Just want to make sure the UV layout is final before I do the colours. Btw., would it be useful to have summer/winter/autumn/spring textures? Is the game using it appropiatly? Having a green mound in winter might seem odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 I found it on Facebook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 Don't know if accurate, but pretty cool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 (edited) 12 hours ago, Stan` said: Don't know if accurate, but pretty cool http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazyryk_burials Tomb number 1 at Pazyryk has numerous artifacts, including horses wearing deer antlers masks, or harnesses with human figures.[22] The tomb is dated to the 4th century BCE.[23] Its main content was looted, but the area with horse sacrifices remained intact. It was excavated by Griaznov in the 1930s.[24] Deer mask for a Pazyryk horse (Tomb 1). Edited October 19 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 On 21/12/2021 at 9:27 PM, Genava55 said: https://vk.com/id387122112 https://pikabu.ru/story/skifyi_khudozhnik_evgeniy_kray_4740059 https://vk.com/albums-20097473 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted October 19 Report Share Posted October 19 On 23/11/2019 at 4:04 PM, Genava55 said: Stunning antler-like horse headpiece with matching breastcollar; Scythian, about 300 BCE, Hermitage Museum, St Petersburg, Russia. Steve Harrison. Museum piece 2019 On 04/12/2020 at 9:23 PM, Genava55 said: 2020 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lion.Kanzen Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 25 minutes ago, Genava55 said: It's a cone, but what is the material that covers it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 8 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said: It's a cone, but what is the material that covers it? A pile of turf blocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted November 3 Author Report Share Posted November 3 18 hours ago, Genava55 said: Yep, I'd like the "Royal Kurgan" wonder to be round and look very much like this, except maybe have additional stelae surrounding it at the base (maybe on the inside of the ditch, or outside?). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Aurelian Posted November 5 Report Share Posted November 5 (edited) https://www.thebritishacademy.ac.uk/documents/1002/12_Parzinger_1836_Final_0.pdf Quote With phase 4, the Scythian-period form of this kurgan, which is dated to the 5th/4th century bc, was complete. The temporal interval between phases 1 and 4 was probably quite brief, but it cannot be determined precisely. The fact that the individual phases in the building work related to one another and therefore stood in conjunction supports the argument that they were planned as such from the very beginning and that lengthy intervals between the phases were unlikely. Accordingly, we can conclude that at the very beginning of kurgan construction a burial ceremony was enacted with a dromos and symbolic grave pit, which were then closed off, before the actual building of the kurgan commenced. The kurgan had three passages and one central room in the interior, which had no practical function and can only be understood as part of cult ceremonies, but which can no longer be reconstructed. In the final phase 4 of the kurgan, the stone platform and conical mound upon it, the latter of a reddish clay–sand mixture, were visible from afar in the green steppe, as described by Herodotus. He wrote of mounds in honour of the war god, on which an iron short sword stood upon a platform made of twigs, which symbolised this deity. Herodotus further emphasised the asymmetrical form of the mounds: one side was easier to access. This corresponds with the sanctuary of Baikara. Even though Herodotus’ description cannot explain the find context at Baikara, unique among kurgans of Scythian times, it does show that such complexes could have played an important role not only in funerary ceremonies but also as sanctuaries This temple has recently been restored: https://astanatimes.com/2023/07/resurrecting-ancient-glory-experts-restore-baikara-temple-in-north-kazakhstan/ Edited November 5 by Ultimate Aurelian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted November 6 Author Report Share Posted November 6 21 hours ago, Ultimate Aurelian said: Looks like a sweat lodge where they clam bake with cannabis. Probably not far off? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted November 12 Report Share Posted November 12 A replica of the costume of a Sarmatian priestess from the 4th-3rd centuries BC Local historical museum named after B.Mailin. The department of culture of the Akimat Kostanay region. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted November 12 Author Report Share Posted November 12 2 hours ago, Genava55 said: A replica of the costume of a Sarmatian priestess from the 4th-3rd centuries BC Local historical museum named after B.Mailin. The department of culture of the Akimat Kostanay region. That looks really nice. thanks for the reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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