longtomjr Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) check Mauryan Shields topic please Ok I am on itSvastika is ancient, they who banned it just because somebody used it for bad intensions are selfish.Ok... They are not shelifsh. The do what they got to do to stop people from Doing bad stuf and joke with History. There are a LOT of politics that is going with the whole Nazi thing and a good way of showing you are against it is to ban the signs and stuf. What would you think of a guy wearing a Nazi suit and runs around Saying Heil Hitler and stuf. You need to understand modern politics to understand this.Say there started this huge terorist orginization in amerca. The highest members of the cabinet and Goverment is fully part of it and supporting it. After a mass killing and people gassed in showers and all the corpses found have an aincent sign carved on it. Later it leaks that the Goverment is involved. Everybody is fired ect. Now rebblios Teens spraipaint the sign everywhere in America on every wall, carve it on trees. Although this sign ment peace in Aincient times it is now a simbol of death and mass murder also a sign of traitors. What will the goverment do... BAn the sign... this is what the Germans did... Understand Now???No hard feelings Kind RegardsLTJREdit.. Dump The Sign please Edited December 21, 2012 by longtomjr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majapahit Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) Have you ever visited Asian countries?How about if your favourite symbols replaced that svastika? How would you feel? Edited December 21, 2012 by majapahit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtomjr Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Have you ever visited Asian countries?Nope... I will when I am older... Hell I am almost 15 how must i get there...I respect Asians. Have to do with them a lot because my dad is in the Tourist bussness. They have a great culture... I know what this sign means to them and I respect that but you need to understand that when we put in the Svastika we will offend people. When we replace it with another Asian sign nobody will be offended... pls look at it this way..regardsLTJR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Nope... I will when I am older... Hell I am almost 15 how must i get there...I respect Asians. Have to do with them a lot because my dad is in the Tourist bussness. They have a great culture... I know what this sign means to them and I respect that but you need to understand that when we put in the Svastika we will offend people. When we replace it with another Asian sign nobody will be offended... pls look at it this way..regardsLTJR majapahit is Asian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtomjr Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Look... the problem is when the mejority of people see the Svastika they connect it in their head with Hitler and Nazis... Do we want That... Offending people....I do see it you way but pls consider my way to majapahit...Kind RegardsLTJR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtomjr Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 majapahit: The game will not be outlawed in your country if they ommit the sign... It will be outlawed in Germany... Consider that to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Man, I usually stay away from controversial topics, but I decided to throw my opinion here.If it's illegal to use the swastika symbol in Germany because of the law (even if it is not the 45º rotated swastika nazi symbol), let's make a German version without it. And keep the ancient symbol where it is not illegal. We're not guilty for those offended people who don't know ancient history.If people says that this Hindu symbol should be banned because it reminds Nazis killed a lot of people, they should also agree to ban the "church" cross because the church killed a lot of innocent people in the inquisition.I'm against any kind of behavior that involves harming another human being, but I'm also against ignorance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo38 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Man, I usually stay away from controversial topics, but I decided to throw my opinion here.If it's illegal to use the swastika symbol in Germany because of the law (even if it is not the 45º rotated swastika nazi symbol), let's make a German version without it. And keep the ancient symbol where it is not illegal. We're not guilty for those offended people who don't know ancient history.If people says that this Hindu symbol should be banned because it reminds Nazis killed a lot of people, they should also agree to ban the "church" cross because the church killed a lot of innocent people in the inquisition.I'm against any kind of behavior that involves harming another human being, but I'm also against ignorance.I agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtomjr Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) Enriqe... Well said man... I think it is just so much pain making two versions and that takes up space... Well then we do the swastika and do one without it... I just dont see how it is gonna look on the website.Download the German version here (Without swastika simbol in game)Kind regrdsLTJR Edited December 21, 2012 by longtomjr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idanwin Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Make a single version and ask whether to use "possibly offensive content" in the game during the installation process and add a check button in the option screen to hide/show this content. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I agree 100%. i Agree too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) If i take a Symbol, think about a Symbol that you respect and have your admiration. Like SwastikaWHAT means Swastika to you what say when you think about Swastika? Nazi or Peace.you Knew Swastika means?he word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix. The swastika literally means "to be good". Or another translation can be made: "swa" is "higher self", "asti" meaning "being", and "ka" as a suffix, so the translation can be interpreted as "being with higher self".Now a crazy Dictator Take these Symbol from Distant and Exotic Country, and put into the German Context.And... what he did?Make wrong and Twisted Meaning.But you and Your People dont have Fault, same,if i say to Enrique: Your People Kills my People 500 Years Ago he is Spanish and Im Honduran (a Spanish Colony).Are Historical Context. Edited December 21, 2012 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtomjr Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 i Agree tooI agree 10000%So we got a conclusion.. No conclusion without debate i always say.If I offended you in any way majapahit I am very sorry. It was not my intention...To the rest... I havent seen a discussion like this in my life... Son much smart people here... i guess that is the reason this project is great...Kind Regards An Happy HolidaysLTJR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I agree 10000%So we got a conclusion.. No conclusion without debate i always say.If I offended you in any way majapahit I am very sorry. It was not my intention...To the rest... I havent seen a discussion like this in my life... Son much smart people here... i guess that is the reason this project is great...Kind Regards An Happy HolidaysLTJR that is good to see, same we can make a German Version of Game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k776 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I'm not getting involved in this discussion unless it reaches the Design Committee.However, I will say this: We will not be supporting two packages. It's maintenance nightmare. So whatever conclusion we reach, it's either everyone gets it or everyone doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTreePaladin Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Nudity is a big issue in many places. I very strongly don't believe it's worth it for whatever perceived "realism" it adds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 that Female Torso its not very Realistic. XD even i don't if a kid know if are naked or not XD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabio Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 With the modding support maybe it should be possible for users to download textures with the swastika/boobs, place in the right directory and enable them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTreePaladin Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Yeah, we've had the nudity discussion many times in the past and had agreed up to this point not to have official nudity. (I think there may have been some exceptions with statues but I'm not sure.) It was more often we talked about the Celtic warriors than the Greeks though. I know it's low resolution, but it's still going to set off certain flags just because. I don't feel we really lose anything by not having it, but I do feel it could be negative if we do include it, for what it's worth.[Edit]Yes, Fabio, we have discussed using modding for the very purpose of allowing players to have whatever features / graphics they desired. There has also been talk in the past of an "ultra realism mod" that would have such features. That would allow those who really cared about such things (nudity, gore, etc.) to have it without including it in the official release. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeta1127 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Depending of the legality of the Hindu swastika in Germany, I say add it, because it would promote ignorance otherwise.I don't know which choice would be better in regards to nudity, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcivs Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Historical accuracy is historical accuracy. Bare-breasted woman-warriors did exist. So we should picture then as it is.Of course there could always be an opition like Parental-Control or something like that in the options menu where the nude textures would be censored...i have a best idea, put as default without parental control, but if you need a button, on game setup for put this opition as "reveal map" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 i have a best idea, put as default without parental control, but if you need a button, on game setup for put this opition as "reveal map" it's more like the sims censure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 lol I think a 'enable boobs and swastikas' checkbox would be hilariouslets make some blood splatter particle effects too, and dismemberment animations!(I'm kidding) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcivs Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 lol I think a 'enable boobs and swastikas' checkbox would be hilariouslets make some blood splatter particle effects too, and dismemberment animations!(I'm kidding)i think:put a button with "ultrarealism" with:* Swastikas* Blood & Gore* Boobs* Nuditybut a button to enable it, the deafult funcion is as we know and love, and add the descriptionthat i'm saying:the random game setup with this buttons:* Game Speed* Victory Condition* Pop Cap* Starting Resources* Reveal Map* Unlock teams* and Ultra realism "enbles boobs, blood and swaskticas" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcivs Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Historical accuracy is historical accuracy. Bare-breasted woman-warriors did exist. So we should picture then as it is.Of course there could always be an opition like Parental-Control or something like that in the options menu where the nude textures would be censored...i am not according to the word "censorated" i thinks thar the behavior should be"Censorated" is HIllarous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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