DesertRose Posted Tuesday at 15:18 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 15:18 Those units deal 1.75x / 2.5x damage against Cavalry. Do they also have this damage multiplier against elephant units? Cause elephant units are missing the "Cavalry" class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arup Posted Tuesday at 15:25 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 15:25 no they don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunedan Posted Tuesday at 16:34 Report Share Posted Tuesday at 16:34 Would make sense if they would though, wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRose Posted Tuesday at 17:50 Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 17:50 Would it? I know AoE2 handles it like this, but from a quick search historically projectiles such as arrows and javelins were most effective against elephants. But it's good to know that they have to be brought down by pure strength; as they deal AoE damage the most effective counter in 0AD might be ranged units as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakara Posted Wednesday at 11:36 Report Share Posted Wednesday at 11:36 (edited) No because elefant are not horse and in previous alpha skirmish was the best against elefant, i don't know today Edited Wednesday at 11:37 by Dakara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deicide4u Posted Friday at 10:08 Report Share Posted Friday at 10:08 On 03/03/2026 at 6:50 PM, DesertRose said: Would it? I know AoE2 handles it like this, but from a quick search historically projectiles such as arrows and javelins were most effective against elephants It makes the most sense to give javelin throwers the damage multiplier, but that would severely nerf an already underused, slow unit. The decision to retain damage multipliers against cavalry for spearmen was purely based on balance, to counter the cavalry's naturally greater speed and higher stats. Otherwise, we got rid of counter units in A17, if I recall correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arup Posted Friday at 10:24 Report Share Posted Friday at 10:24 On 03/03/2026 at 10:04 PM, Dunedan said: Would make sense if they would though, wouldn't it? NO. KEEP MY ELEPHANTS AWAY FROM THIS! ELEPHANTS ARE NOT CAVALRY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRose Posted Friday at 10:58 Author Report Share Posted Friday at 10:58 Oh, bonus damage / counters were removed from the game? Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player of 0AD Posted Friday at 11:15 Report Share Posted Friday at 11:15 Elephants are currently not that great, so it would be bad to let spear units counter them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRose Posted Friday at 12:52 Author Report Share Posted Friday at 12:52 That melee elephants don't profit from melee upgrades does not help, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arup Posted Friday at 14:54 Report Share Posted Friday at 14:54 ????? they do receive all bonus of forge upgrades and will to fight as well seriously, who's been spreading misinformation about my lovely cute eles? deadly too :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapothei Posted Friday at 15:19 Report Share Posted Friday at 15:19 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Arup said: deadly too :3 Since I've learn the power of coding I'll go pull request to nerf your elephants, their hp is set to 1 but their evasion stat is 99.9% with 10 damage with area of effect of megameters also they spawn smaller elphants that moves like a car and punches like a bee but only to allies. Edited Friday at 15:19 by Tapothei 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRose Posted Friday at 15:35 Author Report Share Posted Friday at 15:35 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Arup said: ????? they do receive all bonus of forge upgrades and will to fight as well seriously, who's been spreading misinformation about my lovely cute eles? soldier_attack_melee_0X.json "affects": ["Soldier !Elephant"], Test it out in-game. edit: Has been so in 0.27 as well, so that melee elephants are not affected by melee upgrades has been in the game for a while. Edited Friday at 15:54 by DesertRose 0.27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guerringuerrin Posted Friday at 16:11 Report Share Posted Friday at 16:11 (edited) 36 minutes ago, DesertRose said: soldier_attack_melee_0X.json "affects": ["Soldier !Elephant"], Test it out in-game. edit: Has been so in 0.27 as well, so that melee elephants are not affected by melee upgrades has been in the game for a while. This is true, at lease by checking the stats in-game. Only Will to Fight affects Elephant melee attacks. Edited Friday at 16:12 by guerringuerrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted Friday at 16:33 Report Share Posted Friday at 16:33 (edited) They get armor but not dmg from the forge. Also the splash buff and unit preference behavior change they received in a28 is quite significant. In my opinion they can be very strong in this alpha. Edited Friday at 16:35 by BreakfastBurrito_007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted Friday at 18:28 Report Share Posted Friday at 18:28 1 hour ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said: in this alpha He didn't get the memo. On 18/02/2026 at 8:23 PM, phosit said: The Release 28 is our first release without the Alpha label 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arup Posted Friday at 22:18 Report Share Posted Friday at 22:18 5 hours ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said: They get armor but not dmg from the forge. Also the splash buff and unit preference behavior change they received in a28 is quite significant. In my opinion they can be very strong in this alpha. oh baby strong they are... but they are super gimmicky, they require too much economic focus on them (rigidity of economy) and they are slow as hell... as one of the few players who uses eles widely in multiplayer, I would say it is underrated... and it shall remain so, for quite good reasons. again: DO. NOT. TOUCH. MY. ELEPHANTS. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago On 06/03/2026 at 1:28 PM, Gurken Khan said: He didn't get the memo. Old habits die hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapjas Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago On 06/03/2026 at 11:18 PM, Arup said: again: DO. NOT. TOUCH. MY. ELEPHANTS. <3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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