Spartan Hoplites Are Broken Beyond Repair — The Real Spam Nightmare After Fanatics

[real_tabasco_sauce]

If/when melee infantry champions become useful, these will need a massive nerf.

[Fabius]

2 hours ago, Classic-Burger said:

Slingers are fun.Or they felt like they were.They were literally mini catapults.

Catapults have twice the range and many times the damage, how will your slingers deal with that ?

[Classic-Burger]

11 minutes ago, Fabius said:

Catapults have twice the range and many times the damage, how will your slingers deal with that ?

But there is still some more practical (phase 1).

[Dakara]

2 hours ago, Fabius said:

Catapults have twice the range and many times the damage, how will your slingers deal with that ?

100 slingers do the job if no defense army

[Deicide4u]

4 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

 

when melee infantry champions become useful, these will need a massive nerf.

A sneak peak at the next OP champion unit after Spartiates get nerfed to death.

Spoiler

From the nerfed man himself.

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Deicide4u

[Seleucids]

If every civ has access to most units and at least their counters, then this would be a lot less of an issue. 

In A27 we are seeing the civ rankings again (no rules TG):

Brokenly OP tier: Macedonians, Gauls

Strong tier: Seleucids, Persians, Ptolemies

Medium tier:  Romans, Kushites

Ok tier: Brits, Athenians, Han, Carthage, Spartans

Weak tier: Mauryas

Why? Champs cavs. The top ranking civs all have champ cavs. But if we ban that, we get:

Brokenly OP: Gauls (because fanatics)

Strong: Brits, Athenians, Romans, Ptolemies, Macedonians 

 

So we see fanatics are still OP. If we remove that too, then Gauls will just drop down to the strong tier. 

Spartans is always lower down so having this extra powerful unit is not a big issue. 

 

[Senator_LEVi]

23 hours ago, Deicide4u said:

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Oh someone just mentioned that /s stands for sarcasm and not serious. Sorry.

[Senator_LEVi]

22 hours ago, Servo said:

Actually it’s not broken but it’s OP. The poster is just trolling that he is only playing SP. He knows situation in the lobby. 
 

I watch your game with IRush and you almost got beaten and in fact he just resigned in frustration but was leading you in the end. You were just lucky to be Iberian and he never anticipated that his spartiates can get trapped. 
He did the same strategy on OP team game and positioned on the border and beat his opposing side. He repeated it and was doubled without help so he/they lost. If there was no help from opposing teammates that opponent becomes cosmic.

Now like Reza he is challenging good/decent players and no one accepts. With small map on 1v1 mainland it’s harder to counter the rush if you’re just a decent player.

Separates (is a champion) are strong units that really doesn’t belong in P1. Fanatics being OP is not in doubt but at least they are in P2. 

I see, I didn't realise. But if you've seen me play, then you will know that was hardly my usual level of player, or I'd atleast like to think so. But I've seen Valihrant beat Borg same strat while being Kushites. So I don't think its broken. You should also try playing it, it gets harder to use and if your opponent is half decent and scouts you he will anticipate it.

[Senator_LEVi]

19 hours ago, Gurken Khan said:

You do know that "/s" stands for sarcasm?

I see, I was under the impression it stood for serious, while /j was joke.

[Senator_LEVi]

17 hours ago, Classic-Burger said:

But Sparta is boring.It's the civilization with the least diversity and gameplay in the game. It's nothing special.

I think if players play Sparta as only ecobot it gets boring. But if you play super aggressive, pushing early with Spartiates and Skiritai then it becomes fun, cav too, Atleast in my opinion.