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  1. 1 hour ago, Alexandermb said:

    @wowgetoffyourcellphone @Genava55 maybe a simple dot refering to the places were the player color shows on every pattern could help, since the references are just brown and kind purple, would that brown/purple zone will be the player color?

    I think the player color should be the biggest area. The Germans were actually coloring their shields a lot, at least for the elites and the nobles.

    I really suggest to focus on higher grade Germanic shields for the moment, it would be easier. So shields fully colored.

    So in those examples I would suggest to use blue/red/green area as the player color

    Escáner_20190812.png

    Edit: by the way do not took in account the subdivision in basic/advanced/elite made on this draft, it was made without any consultation nor approval.
    Shield boss + shield rims are actually not common.

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  2. 5 minutes ago, Stan` said:

    I guess they were pretty good craftsmen :) So perfect sounds good.

    I don't know what is their basis for this circle thing. If you want to use alternative feel free.

    On this matter, we don't know what was drawn on the walls.

  3. Just now, Stan` said:

    Under what license are those things? :S

    Connaissant l'INRAP, probablement la plus restrictive possible pour le monde de la recherche :rolleyes:

    But it would be maybe possible to blend different elements and to alter the design. The designs themselves are Gallic, this is only redrawn.

  4. On 4/10/2020 at 12:01 AM, Genava55 said:

    Yes. Based on the sanctuary found in Corent. Another sanctuary similar has been found in Tintignac as well.

    It is possible to slightly modify the building from the reference. It only needs to keep the essence of the building.

    By the way @Stan` I don't know if it can be useful for you, but here a few pictures from painted ceramics found in Auvergne during this time period (end of La Tène).

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  5. It comes from different potteries found in Auvergne, the actual region where the Arverni (a Gallic tribe) were living. I don't know which one the artist took exactly but it doesn't matter. I gave several pictures in my previous message. Here a view of the real potteries in their actual state:

    https://www.histoire-pour-tous.fr/images/articles/dossiers/histoire-de-france/1_Vaisselles_dAulnat.jpg

    http://arvernie.free.fr/spip.php?article40

    The other alternative could be to use the different panels from Gundestrup cauldron.

  6. 10 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

    So Early Germans were the quintessential "barbarians" as we currently visualize the term. "Conan the Barbarian" esque.

    This is maybe a bit excessive view and this painting is a 1840s representation of Arminius.

    Early Germans could have an interesting roster but they also have this issue of very few attested protective equipment. At this time the Germans were economically poor, producing very little things from themselves. There is a bit more warriors burials in the East with the Przeworsk culture and a bit more foreign weapons along the Rhine.

    The Germans seem to offset their lack of equipment with their passion for war, their guerrilla tactics and their skill. Although it was not that much effective against the Roman war machine, this was enough to discourage them from conquering their economically uninteresting and difficult to control territories without urban power centers. Too big cost for little gain.

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  7. 25 minutes ago, Obskiuras said:

    The closest thing we have is that they wore celtic helmets.

    When the Celts were still independent at least yes. After that, the Celtic helmets definitely vanishes everywhere, even in the East.

    Probably that the best ways to acquire helmets at this time were receiving gifts and mercenary/auxiliary experience.

    This is probably why we found roman helmets as well deep in the North

     

  8. 7 hours ago, Lopess said:

    Wonder for Gauls?

    Yes. Based on the sanctuary found in Corent. Another sanctuary similar has been found in Tintignac as well.

    2 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

    Yes. Also, break up the long sides maybe a little bit to add dimension (add beams or insets) ? Would that be permissible @Nescio @Genava55? The edges of the rooflines (where the tiles meet) on the 2 small interior structures could use some dimension. Also, flowers, vines, etc. Maybe a custom decal texture for the interior grounds.

    It is possible to slightly modify the building from the reference. It only needs to keep the essence of the building.

    By the way @Stan` I don't know if it can be useful for you, but here a few pictures from painted ceramics found in Auvergne during this time period (end of La Tène).

    Spoiler

    https://i.ibb.co/KzZN28B/image.png
    https://i.ibb.co/SN0hkR6/image.png
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  9. 5 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

    Sad. So any helmet by their own?

    Before the migration period, nope.

    Excepted the weird wooden helmets from Lolland.

    Probably they would have used first Celtic helmets (especially Coolus-Mannheim type and Port type) then Roman helmets type. There is also a Negau type with a Germanic inscription, although it is a bit far from their homeland.

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  10. In Irish iron age monuments, there is a rite observed several times in the archeological records: most buildings are burnt after a while and some are rebuilt after that.

    There is a theory suggesting a ritualistic destruction, maybe related to the death of a king.

    Anyway, it could be fun from a gameplay perspective to sacrifice the wonder for a strategic goal (temporary bonus, special units etc. etc.).

    Not necessarily to destroy the building, maybe the stone part can remain and the player can rebuild it on top with a discount.

  11. 5 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

    I wonder why an iron age Irish fort is less problematic than an the English iron age White Horse.

    I really liked the idea of the Uffington White Horse but it does not justify the amount of resources, the garrison and the hp ;-) 

    Maybe the White Horse could be used as a special "building", with specific strategical use (area bonus, territory extension etc.).

     

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  12. On 2/8/2020 at 10:37 PM, Genava55 said:

    I love how he used this sword belt from Axel Guttman robbery collection. It really fits nicely to a Britonnic warrior!

    Actually, contrary to the description from the webpage of Axel Guttman robbery collection, it is not a sword-belt but a feminine belt...
     

    On 2/25/2020 at 5:54 AM, Alexandermb said:

    maybe a front perspective of the crest in SVG could make it easier to apply boolean (engravement on mesh) and make the crest.

    I found a good view of the transversal crest

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  13. 2 hours ago, Nescio said:

    And how about the Celtiberians, Lusitani, Vascones, etc.?

    For the Celtiberians, I have found data showing the presence of the donkey, at least in Upper Rio Tajo. During the Iron Age.

    I don't have found data about the Lusitani or the Vascones.

    2 hours ago, Nescio said:

    Were horses more affordable than cattle?

    Both are not really affordable. It is thought that the local landowners or small chiefs supply cattle and horses to their clients or vassals. Cattle are used to do the hard work in the fields. They are not eaten by lower class people.

    However, I don't think merchants and traders were unable to get those. A trader actor with a horse-driven or cattle-driven chariots are both possible.

     

    2 hours ago, Nescio said:

    Personally I'd favour deprecating the rotary mill then and giving the Gauls and Britons a civ bonus or special technology instead, in addition to the 20% building time discount they already have.

    For the Gauls, we know they used a kind of harvester/reaper during the iron age and that the Romans adopted the thing during the Roman Empire. That could be a special technology for the Gauls to research.

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  14. 4 hours ago, Nescio said:

    Furthermore, do you happen to know anything on the situation on the Iberian peninsula?

    It seems that the donkeys were already in place during the Iron Age for the Iberians on the coast thanks to the Phenicians.

    4 hours ago, Nescio said:

    That means both the trader and the rotary mill actors are questionable: 

    I agree.

    For the trader, since it is lightweight, I would say the horse should be used.

    For the Celtic rotary mill, either we question the whole concept (because it has major historical flaws like other buildings) but it means that we should also consider an alternative or modify the balance.

    Or we keep the concept and we use cattle. Technically most of the rotary mills are hand driven but among the Gauls, cattle is generally used for hard work.

     

  15. 10 hours ago, Nescio said:

    @Genava55

     

    , how common were donkeys in Gaul? And mules? And in the British Islands?

     

    Somehow I associate Gauls with cattle, so I'm wondering whether an ox cart wouldn't be more appropiate for their trader. However, Celts are not my forte and I don't really know, hence my question.

    At my knowledge, the cattle are used to do the labor in the field. This a meal for the wealthy, not the farmers. The donkey is attested to the transport only during the Roman era in Gaul, probably because it is something inherited from the Romans:
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/01/83/230183070563dcdc473a3febcb68437d.jpg

    For the moment I see only a document saying the introduction of the Donkey and of the Mule by the Romans at end of the iron age. I will check that in one of my book with more archeological data.

    Edit: Nope. No donkey, neither any mule. I read an entire chapter about animal domestication over the territory of the Senones, these species are not mentioned.

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