Atrik

Hope you can share with use some evidences, would be nicer to even don't start feed rumors before having any proofs. I think I tend to avoid sniping all together when possible. And if I do use exactly Alt and press 120 times like you'll imagine. So would be quite interesting if your accusations would be toward me. Regardless of if you really found a player that use autosniping or not, this is childish primitive reaction to what one find easily a threat. Sniping can be easily "cheated". Real cheats like revealing chat or enemy stats are already easy to do with a small modification, but sniping is even easier because you just have to install any software that can multiply your clicks. A lot of 'gaming mouses' are shipped with a driver already allowing you to have any button to do multiple clicks. People can hate me all they want, won't change the fact that sniping is a extremely weak mechanic of the meta/game, that you can have a "cheat" mouse before even learning about sniping. In my humble opinion, we should try to solve the problems of the games by making it better. Now about the allusions to progui, that is pretty unrelated excepted that I authored this topic, I will just remind that a lot of people took position about it, and never actually tried it. They built assumptions, and started to be very vocal about it still. @BreakfastBurrito_007 you admitted that you never tried it and still log-in regularly to spec game of whoever is online, use progui, and start making a dozens of remarks about it, very close to harassing. You don't even know who use it until they tell you...

Maybe also the siege towers would be usable to capture defensive buildings rather then being hit and run units. I guess wouldn't be a problem giving it some capture strength based on units garrisoned.

Indeed, don't think dogs have the class "Soldier" so they won't add arrows or gain experience in stable by default anyway. If ever allowed to garrison

Who won't? Your enemies can't capture a building guarded by twenty Britons dogs can't they?

Anybody can fork a mod and remove some features, I don't feel like making it myself because it doesn't add anything useful since you can already customize the features you want to show on screen in proGUI. If you don't like the reaction of peoples to the mod's name, because it's associated with a bunch of assumptions, you can rename it easily to something else in proGUI/mod.json.

You can use BoonGUI, or use the option in proGUI under "GUI customization" to totally disable and hide the panel with the trainer and autotribute.

Yes, you are probably searching for the autociv.session.minimap.expand.toggle hotkey.

Yes, if it was on me, I would have uploaded the mod without compatibility check even on mod.io. It's technically a 100% compatible mod.

Some players could have gaming mouses with click multiplier that could be confused for autosniping. When reported to the team, it was deemed not a cheat, because of how accessible and basic are theses mouses. I don't use this, but I know this is one more thing that could provide far greater advantage then the stupid progui trainer. Well you share your thoughts, I share mine. You have options to totally disable and hide panels. Indeed I don't think worth or don't have a plan to enforce players to disable it. The version on mod.io has compatibility check witch is the best tool we have to do what you said (Even if I think this is just a way to reduce the mod's availability). Ok, let's do something dumb, if you ask me to remove progui from the downloader, I will do it now.

Thank you @seeh!

Never felt the urge to reveal enemy stats, map, or chat just because I had evidences some players do. They are also less detectable by far then using progui trainer, while providing a much greater advantage then having a enhanced queuing system. There is a lot to criticize about progui but one thing it does is to be reasonably modular, with a bunch of options I added from actual player suggestions. So you have probably 50% of the players using it, that don't even have the trainer overlay. Now if the goal is to divide people in distinct group "us vs them" as you said, I don't think this is a good thing to do.

He probably is. I used it too even in tournament matches, I didn't know it was forbidden.

I don't understand if this is a joke from @alre or not. So Piplox is just ordering a group of 3 units, while it's CC queue units with progui's autoqueue? If he used the normal autoqueue, he would also have a chance for a new batch to start producing between two orders. He don't need control groups, or anything special to do order those units. If you want to prove a player is cheating and you looked out so closely just to find this, I guess he's probably not doing anything too weird lol

@seeh I don't have this bug, It's probably not related, can you double check?

I added the option later after introducing this. Please simply patch. And theses bar will be removed by default.

Minor but useful trainer enhancements (5.10): Do not consume resources needed for a building if a player is trying to place one. Don't know why I didn't add this earlier, it was just decreasing playability, maybe vanilla auto-queue should also do this. Customize classes used by the trainer in options. Add/remove a production building class to save screen space. And also enable it for unit if you want (like Hero for Persians, Ships for Athenians)

In this match @leopard plays very well his critical role, and jimo have to hold against @freyyja! commands.txt metadata.json

Makes sens and probably good choice for balance. But since it's AOE dps, it friendly-fires right? Else my guess is that won't be a strategical unit, but one you can just spam because it's just a unit with superior stats.

Solution 1: You could add || cmpIdentity?.HasClass("Minister") at the end of the line: https://github.com/nanihadesuka/autociv/blob/master/simulation/components/AIProxy~autociv.js#L12. Solution 2: ping @nani to try to make him itchy about making this configurable as much as the awesome class selectors hotkeys. So that you could just do it from the settings as you imagined.

If you had some overkill mitigation introduced along side this stance, like what @real_tabasco_sauce is describing here: The concept of sniping would simply disappear, and be replaced with putting all the importance on making efficient/brutal engages. Battle line-like formations would finely make sens for infantry field battle. And hopefully, no formation would be the only go-to formation. Compared to the current meta where you use box formation, even when you have 0 chance of being flanked, where the goal is just to induce overkills. Reminder that this stance or even overkill mitigation won't make the battle 'autoplay' AT ALL. For instance your ranged units placement on the battle field would be really important to reach units you want to focus on, even if you toggle a attack weak stance. They won't move to attack weakest units, they'll simply attack them when they get in attack range. Witch makes you having to decide when you want to trade movement to reach weaker units, and when to not. Now, because sniping is simply a dµmb technical skill, I'll be really glad to trade it for the need of learning better tactical and strategy skills. It's true that you'll have a full sniping cycle doable under less clicks now: unit placement, and stance selection*, but it would then give room to new micro meta or ideally the introduction of new units abilities. *still make sens to attack closest units in a lot of cases: prevent melee to reach you, or to clear front-line fast and make your melees free of movement. So 'attack weak' wouldn't be a stance you'll toggle all the time, especially not with @real_tabasco_sauce unit re-balance.

If any of the current stance like: 'flee' => move away from attacker didn't exist, players feeling would also be that adding such a stance will be automation. 'attack weak' => prioritize attacking weak units in range Is a simple, and more useful stance then 'violent'.

That's right, you can even use few different small piece of software and bind sequences of clicks to a hotkey and get same result as this thread suggestion, even without a gaming mouse. That's the problem with this weak game mechanic: 'sniping'. It's just here in the first place because devs didn't thought about making a feature to change attack behavior, and now players adapted the meta and think the game was intentionally design to make you have to click 120 times as fast as possible as part of the gameplay. No, really, we need to push for the game to dish sniping all together and metas/suggestions for more interesting game mechanics will come up.

For sure, could help. It's not that bad to help the problem, but it's weird to want to avoid so badly any feature that would make sniping simply a unit behavior you can use.

Done, showing the bars is now an opt-in option in 'GUI customization'. I think I also prefer having the minimap optimizing screen space now that I'm used to having the kdr animation in the top panel instead.

Congrats you now have a way to do 5x faster sniping. Very boring however. It's not even as good as unit rebalance as a mitigation if you ask me.