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All it does it reading user inputs in dedicated panel to issue existing engine command to train unit from buildings. Can't call it autotrainer? "auto" just means that relative to some anterior state, managing a certain aspect is either made easier, either handled by scripts or engine. Your script has as side-effect to re target closer units, it does mitigate baiting in addition to helping targeting "higher priority target". > Thin air Indeed, as you contributed to the myth that autosniping would be a very bad and shady and would kill 0ad, i understand that now that it's actually you who is developing could be bothering you. You should just admit you changed your mind. At least to yourself . My personal opinion about the autoqueue feature that was added to the main game is that it was a bad idea. Sorry if that sounds dismissive, but how can a SP player (as you say you are) jealous other players about what feature they use or not in the game? Why do you care about the introduction of features that you can always choose not to use, and that you don't even have to bother with the whole "it gives a competitive advantage to it's user" topic?

What then? "Autonomous retargeting and damage spreading"? Are you having a cognitive dissonance about it? Maybe it doesn't really work out well to develop a 0 click auto sniping after taking a strong stand against more manual features in some threads? Still don't think it's bad features beside that it's a bit complexifying unit behavior, just funny to see you bug out about it thoughts.

Yeah that is extremely unconvincing. If you wonder why players use it despite being insignificant that's a explanation. Doesn't aim to convince you to use it. Also we can note that @real_tabasco_sauce made a sort of autosniping that he push for the main game, and @guerringuerrin also want to facilitate training. Both are respectable work and good feature ideas. As-well, the original thread about autoqueue (now in vanilla) also already mentioned finding a way to resize batch based on resources (there were another thread talking about it but can't find it again because of request search limitations). Now, theses threads just aim to fuel a myth around 'progui' that a handful of players want to entertain, that need to use lies about nondisclosure, false claim about it's working etc to make it even stand...

As depressing as to make weekly threads about quickstart and trainer without bringing anything new to the debate. Using the description "unfair advantage" and "cheat" based on false facts that "it's undisclosed" and "make players much stronger". I don't need to go over the list of players that switched it on and off and for whom it didn't make any difference at all, the first post of this thread already start by lying about this, and lies about it are vital to give reasons to even talk about this; just as much as the "undisclosed" lie. At lot of feature makes it impossible to argue that it's attempting to be stealthy but here we are. Concerning using analogy with cars, automatic transmission cars are just mechanically superior, so yes, they ultimately are slightly faster. On a very simple circuit race, the gain of a tenths of seconds every turns still won't make worse drivers beat better ones but equally skilled drivers might increase their relative win chances. On complex races, like Dakar rally, the advantage is simply not worth even thinking about, because the car and driver performance have much more factors to consider. I'm no expert in car racing but afaik most race embrace automatic transmission. Automatic transmission only get such name because of it's ancestor where the mechanical solution wasn't figure out yet, and required for driver to have a stick to shift between gears. Now unlike the automatic transmission system, autotrain isn't ultimately faster then vanilla autoqueue or clicking a batch every time. Sometimes smaller batch are better. Maximizing batch does actually sometimes lead to more building idle times. Still those features have tremendous upsides : For quickstart, it's much better to get you into a state of flow/ get adrenaline buildup. This, because now the game get it's intensity increase over time rather then having a apm/adrenaline spike in the 5sec then a plateau til min 3. I don't feel that there are any "skill" in making repetitive meaningless actions like re-batching all the time. It takes away brain time to come up with original strategies, and overall put you in a stance of repeating some procedures.

https://mod.io/g/0ad/m/select-all This was ported recently, if you want hotkeys, as an alternative to autociv (that is also available from mod downloader).

Hi @Bumek, one mod that aims to improve playthrough experience and does have the feature to select all units is ModernGUI. In this mod simply clicking on population counter select all units; and there are a lot of added clickable graphical elements that can make sens like this. As well you might to check Autociv that adds a lot of very useful hotkeys and options.

Was mostly a troll post, didn't though that it was actually serious thread.

Help this unit to gather some apples as fast as possible.

Likely due to reaching the limit of displayable icons for this panel on vanilla UI. ModernGUI have a higher limit for action icons so it is displayed there.

It is, on military units.

Hi @zaza, welcome to 0ad. There is no campaign currently in the game. If you are looking for Single Player more RP content you can check mods. I'm guessing you got a26 from your package manager so you can go to Settings => Mods => Download mods and try Delenta East for example (most relevant to for SP RP content probably). You might also look at Hyrule Conquest. Have fun.

A lot of players do this trick : Garrison rams in a building (fort most likely but possible to make it from workshop) Ungarrison them on approaching siege, then just after they land a hit, garrison them to safety. It's annoying because you have no way to react fast enough to kill the trickster ram. You can still : Surround your own rams with enough soldiers so that the opponent rams won't be able to unload too close to them. Surround your own rams with melee on stand-ground stance (need less then for 1 but also less safe for you own rams, you might be able to kill enemy rams though). Give up on ramming the fort and find an alternative (catapults, capture the fort, ignore the fort..). The odds that your opponent use anything else then the default garrison hotkey to do this are extremely low.

Consider that a lot of players already expressed they wish that cavs in general get nerfed. Some ideas where to decrease speed as we're talking above but also make cs cav 2 pop and 3 for champs... Theses ideas would nerf cavs much more then making their counter actually works. I also agree with players saying that cavs should ideally be an auxiliary force of an army and rarely it's main force. So even if you invest more to make cavs, you aren't guaranteed to be able to take out a similarly sized inf army. Cavs can already choose what fights to take or not which is their core strength in the first place, and alone could justify a greater price. Beside the fact cavs can hardly be caught by inf spears cav have a lot of extra hp: Cs melees cavs have x1.5 (1.6 with Horse breading) of melee inf Cs ranged cavs have x2 (x2.2 with Horse breading) of ranged inf These hp make them tougher to projectiles, but also spears x2.5 counter was making them barley catch up with the extra hp... From here I'll be in favor of making melee cavs roles more defined. Spear cav could get their damage against other cav increased, and sword cav could benefit from more pierce armor for them to be more effective when trying to kill ranged units or raid enemy base.

It's a good think if CS cav aren't always better then inf. This counter effect is supposed to be a mitigation of cav strength instead of nerfing their speed or any stats. The way formation works make indeed hard to outmaneuver infantry back-lines with melee cavs, but they still have use cases too (mostly rushing and raiding, but forcing enemy to call formations multiple times make melee cav worth it). I like that cav remain strong and mobile, but have very hard time if they fight polearm inf.

Looks very alike the a27 bug/lag that should be fixed with a27.1.

Not specific to a27.1. Not really a bug neither. A variant of the marine seems to have been created in order to make it unlocked by default in PII in the gymnasium. https://gitea.wildfiregames.com/0ad/0ad/commit/ba635f2790762fbf74541013a6247619519c0ebc

https://mod.io/g/0ad/m/10ad You can conveniently get this from mod downloader.

Ranged cavalry are already within that range (x1.3-x1.6 of inf equivalent) melee cavalry have more and I feel it is smart gameplay-wise as melee cav intuitively can be used to: engage backlines be able to counter ranged cavs raid with comparable effectiveness as skirmisher cavs. All 3 scenarios require melee cavalry to have this additional speed.

As you can see from this thread, a consensus will never happen as for the solutions @real_tabasco_sauce makes the all the balancing PRs that get approved by the team atm. So rly it's almost about convincing him. With current production stats (cost, prod time..) more durable units actually makes the game feel more spamy. This because there are much more situation where both sides can sustain sending troops on the front-line, replacing dying units by new one for a long while. Since melee re-balance, this happens more rarely, as battles tend to play out slightly faster. I'll maintain that it did have a positive impact on the gameplay, also because it put less importance on sniping making other things matter more.

Because after melee re-balance, melees were killing other melees faster. For spear inf vs cav, this is even more visible because of this damage multiplier. But note : The melee re-balance didn't change relative strengths* of inf spears vs cavs, it just made fights happens faster So the following reduction of inf counter was a net nerf, which tipped off the balance in favor of melee cav * However in army with mixed compositions, inf spears became more impactful as they were before since the % of dps dealt by them was increased. Now that we identified the above, we can discuss if units dying faster is desirable, and if not, how to mitigate it without inadvertently breaking unit balance. About that my take on this is that it's not bad to have faster paced slaughters when a player miss-micro cavalry, as cavalry are already pretty hard to catch: It seems preferable to keep cavalry stats and mobility high but not too fail safe Then the opposite : make cavalry more normalized with infantry (slower movement, lower stats...)

Basically I think what would be nice is to have cavs used for their mobility, and not a unit that will always be the best suited in all situations as main core troop. To keep melee cav skirmishing still possible they need to have mobility, but being less effective then infantry to fight as front-lines. Restoring x2 spear cav vs cav would also make them a good choice when needing to counter ranged cavs. Strong counters is a easy way to make units more balanced overall because one player can... counter... any unit "abused" by it's opponent.

It's x3 from existing x2.5. x3 inf polearms vs cav and x2 spear cav vs cavs were the a26 values and cavs, especially champ cavs, where still op, just not as much as now.

Finely a hero that will nerf champ cavs?

There is still at least 2 different bug with formations that I haven't been able to have clear way to reproduce yet too. 1. is units acquiring random targets when pressing Halt in formation, ex: a building even if clearly there are units nearby, or attack units far away. (happens when there are a lot of entity around so i guess it's because of some optimization stuff) 2. units sometimes freeze/dance salsa endlessly in formation. Else wise, formation are already very very useful without bonus already, for unit placement, and to fight efficiently. I know some will consider bug too but it's actually nice that units can cluster up while in formation.