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Much improved migration script. https://code.wildfiregames.com/D5129 Use radial spawning so that players may be either grouped with their team or spread out.Use space more efficiently: larger islands, more spacious islands. Main 'continent' is located in the center.Fix player islands merging with higher player counts (even on medium map size)Make starting islands larger and give them wood. Reason: players should not be forced to leave their home island, but instead decide a good time to leave to fight for control over the middle.Savannah generation gets 1 group of main huntable animal since there is little wood, giving the biome a considerable effect on gameplay, depending on the animal.

well that too, but I was talking about the oxford comma XD.

In favor of? I thought it was decided to use American English as default, but metric for measurements. Oh no, I meant I thought most people nowadays use the comma because its more legible, logical, and sensible. In other words, I thought the comma users triumphed.

interesting, I thought the debate was settled on this.

figured I would look at this and happened to catch "beveling" Sparta, like the rest of Ancient Greece were polytheistic, beveling in all the Greek gods. However, thanks to their materialistic society they had special affinity to warlike gods such as Ares and Apollo, however they were eager to please all gods.

Romans before and after 'Marian Reforms'

Actually, what more likely happened is that the foundation was briefly spotted and then went into fog of war all while being constructed. Then when @krt0143 went back to look at it, the fog of war updated to it being completed and a ship had already trained.

not to my knowledge. I suggest you check the replay to know what exactly happened. My first guess would be that they already had a quinquereme and it garrisoned and degarrisoned from the shipyard shortly after the shipyard was constructed.

I was sure to use the "Cold" berries. https://code.wildfiregames.com/D4990

K they are all fixed, as far as I can tell for a26 and a27. Since the secondary animal for savannah is an elephant, its not super great at balancing those, but it is no more than 400/500 food res difference. Maybe just see if you find any issues first.balancedmapsbyBAD.zip

ok i got it. It was a duplicate argument in the map script.

Im currently working on reviving @badosu's maps for a26 and a27 function getFoodAmount(multiplier = 1, biomeConfig) { let initialFoodAmount = Math.floor(1 * biomeConfig.initialFood()); dWarn("Mutiplier:"+multiplier+" biomeConfig.initialFood():"+biomeConfig.initialFood()+" resulting initialfoodamount:"+initialFoodAmount); if (biomeConfig['evenInitialFood']) { if (initialFoodAmount % 2 == 1) initialFoodAmount++; } Have we done an update on the js version since a23? multiplier = 1 in the function declaration ends up being: <p class="warning">WARNING: Mutiplier:[object Object] Thus giving NaN to initialFoodAmount, unless I replace multiplier with 1 in the line defining this variable. Not sure why defining multiplier in the declaration doesn't work. Would it be the same do do it within the function with the following? multiplier = 1;

In the options, if you click off 'battalion style formations' at the bottom under session, this shouldn't happen. Also, if you right click on the 'no formation' formation, that will be the new default.

yeah this is a pretty objective situation.

Well the rams are designed to be used later in the game when players often have full population. In that case, you would have a lot of melee units to work with, as well as some melee damage upgrades. With some practice in your economy and some familiarity with the units that can beat rams, I am sure you will be able to put a stop to them!

women are also good vs rams because they do a little hack damage.

@wowgetoffyourcellphone Does this sound reasonable? I think it is just the onager part that you and @Genava55 are unhappy with, so if a future imperial rome civ uses these onagers, it would be simple to move them to the new civ.

The 'child' template inherits the values from the 'parent' and may update that information and/or add new qualities. So template_unit_champion_infantry_spearman.xml has a cost defined but units/gaul/champion_fanatic.xml, which inherits the champion infantry spearman template has a section giving a new cost profile to the unit. So they don't stack, they are just the new values. Sounds like it worked. Another way to do this would be to add this to the <identity> section of hero_boudicca.xml: <Requirements> <Techs datatype="tokens">-phase_city</Techs> </Requirements> Since heroes inherit the requirement to be in phase city, the - sign means it is removed for boudicca. Then to train her from the CC, add a line to <Trainer> in structures/brit/civil_center: units/brit/hero_boudicca

And the version on gitlab has compatibility check disabled? That's pretty disingenuous since that allows players to use the mod when their opponents don't have it. I am not asking you to remove it from mod io, since players can get it elsewhere and the cat is already out of the bag so to speak. Also, it is ultimately your work, so its up to you. I do think this is a mistake of your doing and that if you go on to make a version for a27, it should be a GUI mod only (as advertised), not a cheat mod.

The goal, surely, is to maintain integrity in the tournament organized by @70H4NN2S, and for that matter in the 0ad multiplayer lobby. If players are openly cheating using a mod that is supported by the in game mod downloader, I think that's an issue. Don't bring up less available and less abused means of cheating as a way to excuse proGUI. Since there are so many other upsides to the proGUI mod, why don't you either remove the automated eco or disable it for multiplayer. Maybe another option would be to add a setting to allow a host with progui disable the automatic eco function for all players in that host. It seems like that would be quite difficult to set up tho. I would just suggest making the word official on what mods are permitted. I think the respectful players will oblige and anyone that doesn't will get called out eventually.

I am not in this tournament, but I suggested to @70H4NN2S to come up with a list of allowed mods for the tournament. proGUI should not be in this list as it gives the user abilities that are not possible in normal 0ad, aka cheats. I am fine with people using it in casual games, but i'm noticing the 'If you can't beat em, join em' trend, and its troubling. In addition to the unfair part, it is doing so much eco for the player which normally requires lots of attention because its an important part of the game. So it goes against a key principle of RTS games: multitasking.

Well the buildings have like 80% overlap. But thats not a major issue. Well, me too, which is why we'd make those sister civs not bland, duh. I just find it much better to simplify or rather synthesize down to just one civ. Which involves pulling from the more interesting units and structures and putting together a streamlined civ. I also would say adding an additional roman civ would make the other civs seem under-appreciated. Also, adding a whole civ outside of 0ad's timeframe seems like it could be a bit of an issue with the historians too. We don't need all the stuff from the imperial era, just enough to show the changes in the military going into imperial rome. However, if someone comes along down the line and makes an imperial rome civ for vanilla 0ad, all you would have to do is remove the onager from the existing romans, and make sure the imperial romans start with legionaries. So, whats the harm in my patch? Its not like we are forever fixed in making decisions like these.

@camelator I'm sorry they kicked you out for balance. Many TG hosts will be more inclusive than this one. I think some players get far ahead of themselves trying to set up a 'pro' TG. If you are persistent and improve, you will find spots more regularly. And you will also find nicer hosts That is one downside to the community mod. Because the player base is split, it is harder for players to find games. My hope is that it can become a CTE instead of just a fixed and balanced version of the base game.

agree totally. Well the greeks are split up by civilization, not by time. In general, I think one well-polished, sophisticated and fun civ is better than two poorly differentiated 'sister' civs that are individually more bland. I suppose that could work, but I still think this would be less enjoyable than to present it as an upgrade. Splitting the civ would mean both roman civs share a lot of units and structures, so it would be hard to defend them as being distinct. Since we know time flows in one direction, it makes a lot of sense for these later developments to be unlocked after growing a city, not before. In this case, just a few differences in the roster completely bring quite a difference in how the civ is played. I am sure players would like to be able to wait to make the decision than to be stuck with one version of rome when they would rather have picked the other. As an upgrade, the element of surprise is equal if not better than the pre-game customization option, since there is less time to react to the change in strategy. Of course, the opponent can scout and guess that the opponent might research the reforms based on the economy choices. The upgrade as I have designed it is supposed to unlock some powerful units at the cost of losing access to many CS units. This makes the economy susceptible to raids, and if the economy fails, it will be hard for rome to afford the legionaries to defend itself. If this was a standalone civ, you couldn't produce this gameplay dynamic. At least not in a streamlined way.

So what do you think about changing the name to something like 'imperial army' or 'imperial reforms', the idea being to introduce military changes that occurred as rome became an empire. I understand the idea of the 'marian reforms' is contested as @wowgetoffyourcellphone pointed out.