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This is so random ahahahaha I love it! The best thing I ever eaten was a chicken kebab grilled on the flame with all the side salad and handmade bread at one Persian restaurant. I still remember it! Amazing stuff!! And that was a restaurant in Europe.. I can't even imagine how good must be the original! So that's probably on top of my list...

That's an interesting suggestion! I had no idea of the existence of such a building dedicated to bureaucracy and administration. Even though I started this thread, I have no particular decisional power when it comes to the mod itself, which it's been started by other people. But certainly new ideas are interesting and maybe is possible to find a good concept for them, both in terms of design and playability, so they can become relatively easy to actually implement!

Very, very juicy stuff!! Thanks for all the information! I'll certainly take a good read at the wikipedia article. It all looks very interesting! Thanks for the help on the historical aspects of the culture and society, hopefully this could really raise the bar of the work of reconstruction

Thank you very much!! I'll try to not bother too much Oh..!! that makes lots of sense!! It still a level 10 to do so for me ahahah but I see the logic behind! Okay, time to break some code! ahahaha

One of the games that gave me the most fun was BAR, a total annihilation remake.. the maps are gigantic and is sooo much fun!! Another good one, if you like something fast-paced like starcraft, could be Red Alert 1-2 or 3. Any one of those is a cool little masterpiece! I mean...

Basic roast of units from the Barracks. - The style of clothes comes from images of traditional rural life from classic russian painters like Apollinary Vasnetsov - This is just a blueprint, so feel free to add comments on weapons, army composition and type of units that could fit the scenario and timeframe around 1000 a.d.

A simple tip: in the latest version (alpha 25), there are circles of seagulls overflying fishing spots, so they help to identify where there is the fish. Usually ships move automatically to the next spot, but only when it's in close range. They're a bit short-sighted, I agree. I'm not sure if it's intentional from the devs or not

Hey! Those are some great feedbacks!! Thanks for checking in, Stan! I know you're already super busy Aha! I know the guy! Yeah, I'll start with him! That sounds awesome! Yeah, I'm just a bit lost in the process.. I just don't know what to make of those models, how to properly uv wrap them or animate, so I would definitely need some guidance in the beginning. Hopefully without taking out time from anybody! Yeah, I can make some further iterations: better storehouse and a simplified farmstead. One story is probably enough Aha! That was my idea to give some "flavour" to this faction Since pretty much all Russian history is a history of frontier, that was the idea of a commercial outpost that can be built anywhere in the map in neutral territory. Is a standalone multi-purpose building that can be used as resource dropsite, establishing a trading route far away from town, or it can be later upgraded to full CC to finally gain territory. You could also train some basic support units, like a trader and a scout. That's why it would be a bit different from a regular market and it's designed to allow a fast expansion in the map. Perhaps it could be unlocked after building a regular town market ? I don't know if these kind of changes to buildings could be implemented, but I think it could be quite cool so, in case, some new playstyles can be experimented with this mod

Hey, welcome! This is a very interesting background! And Byzantine history is so often neglected I feel. I'm also kinda "new" in the forum, but I'd suggest you to take the initiative and go to the page dedicated to Byzantium and leave there your knowledge and resources. Or maybe open your own thread if you have in mind something specific. I also started a thread of proposals for that same mod and I would be interested to add more characteristics to that civilization from a historical perspective As they said the timeframe for now covers roughly the fall of the Western Roman Empire and the Dark Age but feel free to give your inputs and specify dates and historical periods, so it's possible for everyone to have a clear distinction of the timeframes

Yeah but not necessarily a complex system with morale. It can be just very rudimental for the situation mentioned in the original proposal here for the retreat: you press a shortkey for the function, but at the cost of losing control for a defined amount (1 min?). Basically it works like the morale for the situation at hand but without the need of a whole system, bar of energy ecc.. I didn't know that such a system had been implemented! Anyway it was more a comment on the original proposal. Personally I don't think is a particularly important feature, but I don't mind if implemented. I was just trying to give my opinion on it if that was the case

I don't know if such a feature can be implemented, but just for discussion the retreat mode 1 is not bad actually. It reminds me of total war when an army is en route when overwhelmed by an enemy. I guess it could work with a similar trade-off in case: you let your army fly away from combat, but you lose control of them while they disperse in all directions and you have to wait a few minutes to be able to control your units again after their "panic mode". Alternatively, you can decide to retreat your troop manually using your skills and keep full control of your troops. In this case you have 2 strategic options to chose, so it wouldn't be simply an automatization

Yeah, I'm legit having lots of fun with this! The Rus' faction is taking shape! I tried to give some indications on how the buildings could possibly work. It's all ideas, of course, so everyone can feel free to change/add if they want! One of the ideas was also to conceptualise new unique buildings/units that allow to experiment with new playstyles and strategies (like the Trading Post here). If something works well then it can be potentially implemented also into Vanilla I'll try to continue this faction sheet with all the other buildings, units and tech. This is only a first roast. Beside, if you have suggestions on how to start with Blender, texturing, tutorials etc.. let me know! The learning curve seems to be pretty steep, but I'm interested to get some more proficiency with 3D, I think it can be helpful

For Celts/Germans I was thinking about this shrine here, but I don't know if it's accurate for those civs

This is an attempt for an hellenic shrine for maps with biome: mediterranean / temperate I tried both the small temple and the ruins, just to get an idea how it could look like I attached some of the reference images I used

Hey, thank you very much! ^^ Yes, that's my hope! I wanted to give some contribution in the project and I thought this could be the most readily way I can help! Meanwhile I can try to learn a bit of all the rest and putting some ideas on paper is also a good motivation to do so!

Okay, a couple of other ideas (if they will ever see the light): Heian Japan The Heian period (平安時代) is a period from 794 to 1185 beginning when the 50th emperor, Emperor Kanmu, moved the capital of Japan to Heian-kyō (modern Kyoto). It is a period in Japanese history when Chinese influences were in decline and the national culture matured. The Heian period is also considered the peak of the Japanese imperial court and noted for its art, especially poetry and literature. Heian (平安) means "peace" in Japanese. Despite the name, this period of relative peace was precursor of future internal wars inside the Japanese Empire. In fact, Japan during this period was fractured among various feudal lords. Although the Imperial House of Japan had power on the surface, the real power was in the hands of the Fujiwara clan, an aristocratic family who had intermarried with the imperial family. Playing with the Japanese, each territory around the Civic Center is a feudal province. To progress through the technology three you have to build several buildings around the CC area. The concept is “synergy building mechanic” to unlock techs. (will it ever be possible to try this feature, technically speaking?) The central building in each province is the “castle”, the residence of the Shogun. It’s a centre of power and wealth. It unlocks élite military units and generates a trickle of metal, but doesn’t shoot arrows so it can’t be used for defence. Japan excels in the late game with powerful units and techs, but it requires a slow buildup that makes it vulnerable to early attacks. Army Most of the Japanese army is composed of levy infantry from the peasant population (Citizen-Soldiers). They’re relatively cheap to train and quick to die. But the rest of the “core” of Japanese military is composed of specialized heavy infantry that is provided by the feudal lords in the castle. The cavalry is composed of nobles from various clans. They have heavy pierce and hack armour, but this slow down considerably their attack Economy Overall the Japanese military is strong and specialized, but slow and expensive. So a solid economy is required to sustain such an army. Metal and stone are the most important resources to build advanced buildings and train champion units. The castle provides already a metal trickle helpful in the late game, but the rest of the economy is sustained by the peasant population that work endlessly in the farms and in the forests. The class of citizen-soldiers and rōnins is particularly inefficient in gathering resources, so an elevated number of villagers is required in the economy, making it vulnerable to raids.

Okay, here an example of how these civs can be developed. Here's the Muscovite Rus' (just a draft). Muscovite Rus' The Grand Duchy of Moscow (or Muscovite Rus’) was a Rus' principality of the Late Middle Ages centered on Moscow, and the predecessor state of the Tsardom of Russia in the early modern period. It was ruled by the Rurik dynasty, who had ruled Rus' since the foundation of Novgorod in 862. Ivan III the Great titled himself as Sovereign and Grand Duke of All Rus'. The Muscovite Rus’ is a great commercial empire, spanning from the Baltic Sea to the Bosphorus. For centuries this land has been territory of passage between the germanic tribes of the north and the hellenic civilizations of the south and a crossroad between East and West. The trading of furs, wood and precious metal is the source of the richnesses of the Russian Grandduchy. For this reason, one of the key buildings of this civilization is the Trading Post, a unique building available at a early phase that can be placed in neutral territory and act as universal dropsite and trading hotspot. It allows a quick expansion into the map, and it can be upgraded as a Civic Center (economic expansion), or as an Army Camp (military expansion). Army The core of the Rus’ army is its light/medium cavalry and ranged units, due to their tradition of hunting wild game in the forests. One of the special units is the scout, a light cavalry unit always followed by 2 hunting dogs that can be used for exploration or early incursion. The infantry is generally very basic and weak, composed mostly by peasants (citizen-soldiers). The élite is composed mostly of mercenaries coming from the north: the Varangians, while the cavalry relies on “Qazaqs” from the Caspian steppe and their military traditions. Economy The Russian civilization has cheap and fast buildings and relies heavily on three resources for its sustainment: food, wood and metal. This makes the civilization very competitive in forest-based maps, but weaker when this crucial resource is lacking. However, due to their trading bonuses they can often trade the underused stone to compensate. The enormous extension of Russian plains allow for an extensive food production: Rus’ farmfields are 25% larger and allow up to 7 farmers to each field. A later technology called “Serfdom”, allows to train “serfs” (slaves), cheap and productive units that can sustain the rest of the army.

Hola guys! Premise: so I was thinking how to make a good medieval version of 0ad that can be fun to play and can stand together with the main game. I think it could be a strategic choice, given the recent hype surrounding the release of AOE 4 (which is, after all, the progenitor of 0ad itself) and the latest interest surrounding classic rts games in general. An alternative mod that can be presented together with the main game could be also another element that showcases the potential of pyrogenesis engine and, hopefully, attract new talents and devs that could enjoy working for the game. For this reason, I think Millenium AD provides already a solid base to work upon. It's been updated to the latest alpha version (thanks Yekaterina!) and it works quite flawlessly. The name itself works very well in a continuum with 0ad and re-inforces the overall brand of games that can span from ancient wars to modern times with a set of different titles that can offer various gameplay experiences. But the project seems to be abandoned. The last messages in the forum date back to 2-3 years ago and I have no idea if there're still people interested in the project anymore. The original creators also seem to have left and what remains is an interesting work with some good ideas but a lost potential. Since the mod relies mostly on the features in the vanilla game, I think the work required to revamp the game would be mostly cosmetical: - new civs, new assets, UI update etc.. because all the other gameplay features would just follow along each alpha release of 0ad. So what I want to propose is a simple roadmap to refresh the mod and make it enjoyable to play, despite the long hiatus. -Very simply: stick to a more indefinite timeframe around 1000AD (from the fall of the Roman Empire up to 1200-1300 ca.) and compress the two original parts of the mod into a single one that can "generically" evocate medieval times in that timeframe. -Focus on 3 new civs only that can offer enough variety in the game together with the other civs already present. In synthesis: Kiss. Keep it simple, stupid! ahaha Seriously though. It would be nice to have a fun and playable mod, and I think the shortcut would be to focus on simple goals that can be manageable and can keep the game fresh without too much strain. So for now we have: Europeans: - Carolingians - Anglo-Saxons - Norse Arab: - Umayyads Middle-Eastern: - Byzantine And I wanted to propose: Nomad/Turks: - Avars East Europeans: - Muscovy Russians Asian: - Feudal Japan Hopefully this set of new civs could give enough choice and variety to the gameplay by having some unique characteristics. (*Further it may be expanded with some European civs, like Holy Roman Empire and Italian States, and Goryeo or Song Dinasty in Asia, but only after this first roast of civs) Now, the tricky part: I'm no developer and no 3D artist (but I can learn this part!). I only tried experimenting with some concept art for the Russian civ and I had quite some fun with it, so I think I can design a detailed concept for each civ: buildings, units, techs that can be more easily adapted into 3d assets and into the game. But then I have to defer to more experienced people in the forum if they want to chime in and participate with their talent and expertise. And, generally, if you guys think it's a wortwhile project, alongside the current schedules. Or if simply you have suggestions, how to start with a mod etcc.. I don't know. I have no idea about the current schedules of 0ad development, so this is only for the funsies! Beside, let me know your comments! This is just a proposal, but I'm very interested to hear opinions, suggestions or anything that can be helpful to the discussion!

Ah! That's probably the most perfect description!

Jeez! 98gb?? For real? darn! That's another good deterrent, beside the price ahahaha Yeah, I agree with the general sentiment. It just look "nice" and "fun" for a little game, but miles away from being as epic as the predecessor. Is not completely bad either, just simply "okay". About the units yeah, they look ridiculous and proportions are completely off. But, once you get used to it, there are some lessons that can be learned on readibility I think. After a while I came to appreciate the fact that are immediately distinguishable on screen, while, if I can make an observation, in 0ad they're much easier to confuse and battles look messier. Maybe the new battalion feature can really be the gamechanger? Ehehehe curious about that!

Dumb question from a noob. What do you mean with "soft counter system" and how would it differ from a hard one?

I don't think I will buy it, mainly because of price and hardware requirements. I like to see new changes and evolutions in games but I stopped chasing each new release. I'm pretty happy to play a few solid games and I usually don't need to look constantly for something new. Also I wouldn't have time ehehe So far I mostly watched the gameplays available and, as much as I was initially skeptical, it does seem to be a lot of fun. There a few new innovations that keep the gameplay fresh and I wish something like that could be implemented more also in 0ad. Beside that, I don't know .. the game seems to be built specifically around online matches. It's all made to be fast-paced and competitive and it lacks some depth to me. The graphic style is also quite anonymous. Like it's been made from 3d assets bought online. Don't get me wrong, it looks nice and smooth, but it's still a bit boring and not very immersive. So it looks to me a quick game for immediate fun but not particularly deep. It's rather addictive to watch from gameplays, but idk, I think is personally destined to die after the initial enthusiasm. I think online it could replace StarCraft 2 as multiplayer title, but I wouldn't be much interested in playing competitively in that case

Right!! This was a very cool concept! I can definitely try out some proposals. In case DM me if you have already a couple of ideas that you just wanted to visualize

Another attempt for a concept of mercenary units. As I said to Lion Kanzen, this is just to experiment a bit and provide ideas for new civilizations for the mod and also an exercise for me to get back to the drawing board ehehehe If there's interest to update the mod, I can plan to actually design a line of units/buildings for each civilization, so it can be a blueprint for new assets that hopefully can give new life to this medieval version of 0ad. Since the announcement of AOE 4, I got back to good old RTS games and I think a scenario of kings and knights is the only thing missing to make 0ad great!