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When there is champion spear cav, the naked fanatics are an effective counter. But now the champion spear cav is banned, the power of the naked fanatics begin to show in TGs. Their problem is speed, damage and decent durability combined together. Although less unbeatable than champion cavs, they have no particular weaknesses and are cheap to make. There are no parallel units for any other civs in phase 2, which makes them OP. In the past, they were truly fragile and costed metal, so they weren't great as late game units / meatshields. But now, it's too easy to spam them and Gauls just got a hypercharged spearman unit that nobody has. This breaks the inter-civ balance. Suggestion: 1. Fanatics cost metal. 2. Fanatics get no shield, or at least are not affected by shield upgrades.

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Besides cost effectiveness, you must consider the activation cost. Champs are much more cost effective than citizens but they have such a large initial investment that blocks players out from making them. Fanatics are the champs with a low activation cost, because food and wood are gathered en mass and the 100 each is nothing for a P2 player. You can put 70 units at one forest and station 55 womens to farm, but the metal mines and stone mines allow up to 24 units only @TheCJ raised a good point about viability. Fanatics are only available for Gauls and other civs Dont have effective counters

Well, I believe you are wrong. For the following reasons: 1. Just because you're better at the game (supposedly), you aren't necessarily smarter or better at balancing. Even a complete noob that uses their brain can understand why champion cavalry are too strong at the moment, no matter if they ever built some themselves. 2. If you're actively playing the game and investing a lot of time into it (which you need to reach a highly skilled level of gameplay), chances are that your opinion on a good balance is biased. Because you want your favourite strategy to be viable (or perhaps even the best), while you want strategies that you struggle against to be reduced in effectiveness, even if they may not actually need any balancing. 3. Concerning yourself only with the opinions of pro players inadvertently leads to a worse experience for less skilled players. This can be seen in almost all teamgames that have an E-sport scene; some tactics only become very good with communication and teamplay, but nerfing the tactic itself will make it unusable in casual play. Well, either you make fanatics more expensive to reduce their cost-effectiveness or you aren't actually making them more expensive, in which case such a change would be useless. A good player can balance his eco (as you should know if you're playing in "op games"), so it doesnt actually matter to him whether its a metal or food cost. The only exception being that metal has a ceiling of how many gatherers it can have and a ceiling of how much metal you can mine. Both of which are pretty much irrelevant in early p2.

The problem in this forum is that we have to argue with three group of people 1 people who never player multiplayer games 2 people who rarely play multiplayer games 3 people who play multiplayer games, but not op games. Only noob games What we say is based on experience and observations and what they say is based on their dreams

Why adding metal is lame? Just add low metal like 50 Then the player in p2 has to send men to metal before spamming them. It make them slow. More ever he has to spend metal for fanas which means he cant upgrade them easily. It causes he not able to make mass fanas

Then you must nerf their champion options and late game farming bonus. Right now they have both strong early game and late game, making the civ generally op

Adding a metal cost would be lame. A small adjustment to armor values or hp or speed or a combination would be all that’s needed if anything at all.

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Walling in 0ad is costly in both resources and the mental capacity required to make sure they are actually sealed. palisades and stone walls need to become easier to seal and place if they are to become more impactful on gameplay. I've had moments before where palisades were remarkably successful in protecting my base from large amounts of cav in p2, but its quite rare to see palisades actually accomplish what the player envisions when they are built.

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the third hero definitely needs to be changed and another potential change that would be interesting is the women champs could be altered to be like the immortals, where they can change between swordsmen and archers.

Hello! I would really like to see in the game, in addition to demolishing buildings, also the ability to disassemble them and return some of the resources spent. What do you say to this? Something like a command button that sends construction workers to dismantle the building. Or you can simply return part of the resources to the treasury when a player simply demolishes a building. If the building is damaged, then the percentage of resources should be calculated from the current hit points of the building. This option, which is simpler than the one described above, allows the computer player to use this feature too. In addition, I noticed that, unlike Age of Empires II, repairing buildings and mechanical units for some reason does not consume resources. Is this how it should be?