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19 minutes ago, stanislas69 said:

@feneur /Offtopic, is there any design document or any research of any kind for part II ?

No. We kind of want to finish part one before we spend any time on something we might not even get to ;) (Not saying we won't finish the game, just that it's a bit early to plan for the next part when we aren't even in Beta phase yet. No one of us who are involved now might be active at that point anyway, so there are plenty of reasons not to spend too much time on thinking about it, but very few why to spend time on it at this point :) Though thinking about it I seem to recall Michael posting a thread or two about post part 1 civs, at least eastern Romans seems like something I've seen. I don't remember if he's posted anything in the public forums though, the thread I'm thinking of was before we went open source.)

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12 hours ago, fatherbushido said:

Ah, so that's why that image was posted on the Spanish 0 A.D. fan page :P It's not really a representative image though as the current civilizations are different and the part two ones are basically just what Michael envisioned like 6-9 years ago or so. It's of course relevant choices, but it can still be a bit misleading to show an image like that as people might take it for granted that those civilizations will be included.

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12 minutes ago, feneur said:

Ah, so that's why that image was posted on the Spanish 0 A.D. fan page :P It's not really a representative image though as the current civilizations are different and the part two ones are basically just what Michael envisioned like 6-9 years ago or so. It's of course relevant choices, but it can still be a bit misleading to show an image like that as people might take it for granted that those civilizations will be included.

Haha but is an idea the kind of civs for second part.

in the image for example are missing Sarmatians and Sasanids, the image  is very outdated.

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5 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Haha but is an idea the kind of civs for second part.

True, but on that page it says "Civilizations of 0 A.D. part one and two", not "Suggestions for civilizations of 0 A.D. part one and two". So it is a bit misleading to say the least.

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Didn't know that seleucids and ptolomies were thought about so long ago. I always thought that were added in the moment, like mauryans.

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4 hours ago, av93 said:

Didn't know that seleucids and ptolomies were thought about so long ago. I always thought that were added in the moment, like mauryans.

(Please take my estimated date with a grain of salt, I'm not sure exactly when Michael made that map. He should remember better though.)

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34 minutes ago, feneur said:

(Please take my estimated date with a grain of salt, I'm not sure exactly when Michael made that map. He should remember better though.)

I correct the message in FB Spanish fan page, mostly  of follower only commented about part II civs like Huns, don't take too literal the map.

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48 minutes ago, GunChleoc said:

Trac says:

Last change on this file was 14907, checked in by michael, 3 years ago

You have to dig deeper :) The commit message is "Initial commit for Public Art Repository." and it has 4721 files added. So it only says that the file was made at least 3 years ago, but most likely earlier :)

P.S.: let's split the civilizations discussion into it's own topic?

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9 hours ago, fcxSanya said:

P.S.: let's split the civilizations discussion into it's own topic?

Or let's end it there. If someone wants to start a new topic to discuss civilizations for part 2, feel free to do so (just be aware that you might not get any result from it for many years to come), but I doubt we need to discuss that image or Michael's ideas any further - he can add his opinion in a new thread if he wants to as well.

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I said you could discuss this in a new thread. So I have split this discussion into a new thread =)

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First part (500 BC - 0 AD)

  • Macedonians
  • Achaemenid Empire
  • Seleucid Empire
  • Ptolemaic Empire
  • Maurya Empire
  • Athenians
  • Spartans
  • Roman Republic
  • Carthage
  • Gauls
  • Iberians
  • Scythians
  • Celtiberians
  • Lusitanians
  • Odrysian Kingdom (or Thracians)
  • Warring States China and Qin Dynasty
  • Nabataean Kingdom
  • Kingdom of Saba (or in general Ancient Yemen)
  • Bactrian Empire
  • Kingdom of Pontus
  • Corinthians
  • Thebans
  • Kingdom of Pergamon


Intermediate (end of the first - beginning of the second)

  • Han Dynasty (202 BC to 220 AD)
  • Kingdom of Kush (Meroitic period from 300 BC - to 200 AD approx.)
  • Britons (Fought the Romans during 1st century BC and 1st century AD)
  • Parthians (247 BC - 224 AD)
  • Early Germans (Cimbric invasion in the West, Scirii and Bastarnae in the East, Ariovistus in Gaul, Ariminius rebellion, Marcomannic Wars).
  • Xiongnu (318 BC - 155 AD)
  • Dacians (From Burebista to Decebalus)

 

Second part (0 AD - 500 AD)

  • Roman Principate
  • Roman Dominate
  • Byzantines
  • Sarmatians
  • Kushan Empire
  • Huns
  • Goths/Vandales
  • Saxons/Angles
  • Franks/Alemanni/Burgundi
  • Sassanid Empire
  • Three Kingdoms China + Jin Dynasty
  • Gupta Empire
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I'd rather we just dispense with the whole Part 1 and 2 thing. After 1.0, just have WFG release a large update every 1-2 years that's basically like an expansion pack (more civs, extra features, major engine improvements, etc), with balance fixes and minor bug fixes at 2-3 month intervals. 

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9 hours ago, Genava55 said:

First part (500 BC - 0 AD)

  • Macedonians
  • Achaemenid Empire
  • Seleucid Empire
  • Ptolemaic Empire
  • Maurya Empire
  • Athenians
  • Spartans
  • Roman Republic
  • Carthage
  • Gauls
  • Iberians
  • Scythians
  • Celtiberians
  • Lusitanians
  • Odrysian Kingdom (or Thracians)
  • Warring States China and Qin Dynasty
  • Nabataean Kingdom
  • Kingdom of Saba (or in general Ancient Yemen)
  • Bactrian Empire
  • Kingdom of Pontus
  • Corinthians
  • Thebans
  • Kingdom of Pergamon


Intermediate (end of the first - beginning of the second)

  • Han Dynasty (202 BC to 220 AD)
  • Kingdom of Kush (Meroitic period from 300 BC - to 200 AD approx.)
  • Britons (Fought the Romans during 1st century BC and 1st century AD)
  • Parthians (247 BC - 224 AD)
  • Early Germans (Cimbric invasion in the West, Scirii and Bastarnae in the East, Ariovistus in Gaul, Ariminius rebellion, Marcomannic Wars).
  • Xiongnu (318 BC - 155 AD)
  • Dacians (From Burebista to Decebalus)

 

Second part (0 AD - 500 AD)

  • Roman Principate
  • Roman Dominate
  • Byzantines
  • Sarmatians
  • Kushan Empire
  • Huns
  • Goths/Vandales
  • Saxons/Angles
  • Franks/Alemanni/Burgundi
  • Sassanid Empire
  • Three Kingdoms China + Jin Dynasty
  • Gupta Empire

East Roman Empire. 

Add Palmyra, is short period of power but interesting.

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