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But automatically deleting the building for usable resources is exactly that, plus being automatic, plus getting resources back, plus the animation makes less sense. The only purpose of the "arsonist" (which was never intended to be a new unit, but a role present units take) is to avoid the simultaneous collapse of everything. Besides, you are defeating the purpose of how the game works. As mentioned: when you delete a building, "the amount of resources you get back depends on how much has been actually built. That is, if 35% of the structure has been built, one gets 65% of resources back, and so on". This implies "100% built means 0% of resources back". The present behaviour "makes perfect sense if one thinks of it as the resources having been set apart beforehand for construction, the resources already used being lost". If you want to press just delete and get resources back, you'd need to change how the whole thing already works, otherwise it makes no sense (if you get back, say, 30% with your method, if a structure is already 70% built and you want to destroy it, it'd be more rewarding to wait until it's completely built and then destroy it ). EDIT: Unless you are already considering all this, and what you get back is the unbuilt fraction and a fraction of the fraction already built, which would be the general rule (at present the fraction of the fraction already built is 0%, and you want to give it a value). There's another possibility in between all of this: do what you want to do, but require unit(s) to do it ("salvager(s)"), the action is just Salvage, could be quite fast (unrealistic since it should be like unbuilding it, but whatever), and not only avoids the collapse issue, but ends not being in contradiction with present implementations or "too simple and rewarding". One assumes they got out just before destruction I guess, but sieges are completely weird in the game anyway (which I think needs fixing).

@wowgetoffyourcellphoneTHIS IS PHANTASTIC! It is inspiring and providing an athmosphere well aligned with the situation. Could you try and regenerate some of the game's title screen art with such images?

OK, that is exactly what the mod already does (only the animation remains "delete" and does not show selling the ship) Side note: The mod does not provide store-specific credit (which I believe is ok), i.e. when returning a ship, you are getting back a fraction of resources for general purpose. Store credit would mean you get a reduction for your next ship. The remaining question is if a building needs to be garissoned with at least unit in order to allow deletion (mimicking arson). I still have doubts on that concept: burning down your building does definitely not give back much useable resources. Requiring a person to be in placed inside the building to be destroyed appears counter-intuitive to me (this is already strange with a manned tower or siege engine: the crew survives destruction, other than for a ship where they sink together).

The Romans landed at Carthage.

Please make a PR for the base game. lol You're in luck too! The next Release will fix rain particle orientations.

Spoiler Alerts! lol

Aristides the Just in my current writing project. (Ostracized^) (Storming Psyttaleia before Salamis) (Ready to march the army to Plataea)

I had not heard of the Celts using this term; i assumed it was something from the Greco-Roman sphere only. According to wiktionary Rammaz means strong (only coming to mean ram in proto-west germanic); now Bukaz does mean buck already so it is kind of plausible. Maybe something like Hand ram: Bagmawaldōz (beam wielders),Gataslahanōz (gate smashers) Covered ram: Rammabukkaz That could work. Or something with those verbs? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/wihslōną https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/saljaną Also the axeman champion is called Slōgijanōz, maybe could be renamed to Slōgijanaz (my understanding is -az is singular and -ōz is plural).

Fantastic image!

Salvage then, as has been just discussed: returning something (a ship) to a store (the Dock) and getting store credit (salvageable fraction).

Maybe you guys already decided on something, but what if you could like convert a ship. It is like selling or returning something to a store and getting store credit. You sell you ship back, and some of the wood can be used for another one

No new actors are needed for anything, it's just the present units doing or getting stuff done when garrisoned (unseen). Simplest would be that it can only be attacked (but the process should be fast enough for this to have no relevant use case). It shouldn't be capturable or salvageable, unless there's a method to stop its ongoing destruction (implying complicating things).

Where do we get an arsonist actor with appropriate animation and a burning building animation? Same question regarding dismantling of siege engines. Which actor should we use to illustrate someone working on the siege engine? Frankly, I'd rather park these for a moment and instead generate a new mod version that provides the reduced amoutn of recovered resources and the slightly slower destruction. QUESTION: if destruction is not instantaneous but a process taking a bit of time, how would we deal woth an attack onto that object during that time? Is it not attackable while being destructed, or, probably better, could an attacking enemy grab part of the resources of the destructed building ? (sounds complicated but is probably an interesting gameplay aspect)

Excellent work @nifa!!

Sure, it'd be all contemplated, just takes more time. That "while" would only make the "ugly simultaneous collapse of everything" happen a bit later . That's the main reason to require an arsonist. To reduce micro to just one extra action no matter the case, Set on Fire could work like this: select (all) building(s) and (all) arsonist(s), and just press the Set on Fire button/hotkey. This should make the arsonist(s) move to the closest building(s), garrison, "start the fire" and ungarrison (and automatically repeat the process until all buildings in that initial selection are set on fire). The only difference with Self-Destruct would then be the addition of arsonist(s) to the building selection to be destroyed. Self-Destruct for organic units is ok as it is now.

Moved prop_apron (the cloth) from tropaion_post.xml to tropaion.xml, which means that tropaion_post can be a small tropaion without a stone base. Also added a different bronze base to the post and gave the shields around the base more geometry, so they look less polygonal, as requested by @Thalatta tropaion_0.28.3.zip

For me, in SP games, I sometimes have to move the storehouse closer to the next forest and I'd like to remove older storehouses and gain a little bit back. Same for fishing boats that I build but fish have been depleted or I don't find any (on some maps). I do agree that the default of 50% of resources is a bit too much and I propose to reduce it to 30%. Frankly, I have not yet seen any scorched earth move by a human player, e.g. deleting a large group of his buildings, but it would be nothing new and already be possible now, I believe. The mod does not endorse that particularly, except that you get a bit back when deleting your stuff. I do agree, though, that deletion should not be an instantaneous process as it is currently, but might take while. I'll investigate how this could be implemented. Requesting a unit to be nearby or inside the to-be-destructed building might add a bit too much of micromanagement (in my personal view), so I'd prefer not to require that. For a siege engine, this might be a good idea , resembling the near-a-dock requirement for ships. let me see what is possible.

That's adding rewards to something that's already too automatic My proposal for Salvage was the simple rule of just doing things "in reverse": I mean, if you are already near the Dock/Arsenal, you might as well be inside it (it's not that a siege tower is literally inside an Arsenal, but surely when Demetrius' Helepolis was being disassembled by the Rhodians they set up some temporal depot right there, with people that actually knew what they were doing involved, represented by the "engineers" an Arsenal is supposed to have). Regarding the "fraction" mentioned for the salvageable resources: Independently, and personally, to avoid the ugly simultaneous collapse of everything, I'd require one nearby (or better, garrisoned) unit for Self-Destroy to work. I'd rename that then "Set on Fire" or something, it would work only on one's buildings (supposedly being done also from inside), and once triggered the building can be left alone and gets destroyed fast. No time invested in getting the resources back, then no resource reward, but useful for quickly clearing up stuff and scorched earth policy.

If we change the buy-back price to 10% it would be much less rewarding. For ships this would work anyhow only near the dock. Should we add similar things to siege engines, e.g. near their depot/workshop? Or at the CC ? And whatr do we do for buildings? I would - personally like to have a little benefit, e.g. when destroying a storehouse I don't need anymore.

Hey everyone, I’m here to share some more news about World Rising! The Yayoi culture is already well into development, with approximately 60% completed. We have also started working on the Kofun culture, which will represent the final Era of the Japanese cultural progression in the game. By the end of this week, I plan to share more images of the new structures and also show some of the new units currently being developed. Another feature I’m currently finishing is the weather system, and I’m really enjoying how it’s turning out! This map will feature three different types of rain: drizzle, heavy rain, and thunderstorms. One of the most interesting aspects of this system is that weather events will not necessarily affect the entire map at the same time. Rain will appear randomly in different regions of the map. This means that your city could be enjoying calm, clear weather while, on the other side of the map, an enemy city could be dealing with a powerful thunderstorm. The goal is to make the world feel more dynamic, with different regions experiencing different weather conditions throughout the match. I’m also working on the skeletons, rigging, and animations for the animals I created to implement in the game. I have to admit, this part has been quite a lot of work, but little by little these animals are starting to come to life inside World Rising. Finally, I plan to create one more tree model and two new types of plants to expand the Japanese biome and make the environment feel even richer and more diverse. Development continues to move forward, and there is still a lot more to come. I’ll be sharing more updates and development images soon. Thank you to everyone who continues to follow and support World Rising!

Cat units for the Athenians! (There's the crazy story about the Persians releasing cats on the battlefield of Pelusium, knowing the Egyptians wouldn't risk to hurt them with their arrows).

I think this would promote self-destroying things, which I think is an extremely unsightly exploit (that's why AI makes everything collapse), and as someone mentioned, one would want it "not to be too simple and rewarding". That's why other things were proposed, but maybe are a bit harder to implement

Thanks exellent news! Your are right - the GUI is a bit "fiddly" and appears overloaded will have a careful look and try and imporve. Used it to convert very nice older skirmish and scenario maps already that I was missing

Tried to implement this as a mod. Activating the recover-resouces mod below, the following applies onto entities you have constructed yourself and that are not under enemy capturing nor were captured by yourself: Whenever you self-destroy your finished buildings Whenever you self-destroy your finished siege engines Whenever you self-destroy your finished ship when it is near your dock (default 30m) you are getting back a fixed percentage of the construction cost (currently defined 50% as a default but the parameter can certainly be tuned . Note: the mod should work for both R0.28 and R.029 SVN. Please try and let me know if it works for you as well and what best parameters (percentage and ship distance to dock) you would recomment! recover-resources.zip README.md

Just ran it on macos, it worked, though I didn't really try anything. The gui is pretty small, could you make it bigger please