AIEND Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 我不确定现实中希腊是否真的有使用剑的骑兵,因为希腊剑不像凯尔特剑,它太短了,骑兵用希腊剑很难触及对手(尤其是步兵)。早期骑兵普遍使用斧或者锤,也是因为这些武器有一个相对较长的柄。 为什么其他希腊/罗马的骑兵都是矛骑兵,而雅典却例外呢? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Interesting question. When I look around (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippeis ) I find all kinds of weapons, like bows, swords and spears (used as lance or javelins). What do our historians have to say on this matter? @Thorfinn the Shallow Minded @Genava55 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) I think there are using both (spear, sword), even javelins, from a historical point of view. Something to consider is that it is motivated by gameplay, swords are much better in the game than spears. And xiphos and machaira/kopis aren't that short. There are long ones: Edited February 19, 2023 by Genava55 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIEND Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, Genava55 said: 从历史的角度来看,我认为两者都使用(矛,剑),甚至标枪。 需要考虑的是,它是由游戏性驱动的,剑在游戏中比长矛要好得多。 而 xiphos 和 machaira/kopis 并没有那么短。 有很长的: It's normal to wear shorter swords as secondary weapons, but are there really cavalrymen who don't carry spears, shields, and javelins, but only one sword? Also, how long are these swords in the picture in metric? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alre Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 the game is limited by the fact that all military units only use one weapon to fight. that's the logic used until now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 @alreRight, but that doesn't make it clear to me why the athenian cav uses swords. History, differentiation, compensation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 It's differentiation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 Admittedly if the Athens in game is the Delian league Athens then yeah it's not really historical but you've got to make compromises for gameplay purposes. In fact i can't remember if it's according to Polybius, diadorus or thukidites( sicilyian expedition) but the classical athenian cavalry force was the best, although very small, in the southern greek states. But i do have to say that they, like most mainland greek state cav did not do much besides scouting and chasing routing units. Remarkably it's the sikeliote greeks whose military advanced towards the combined arms strat in the classical period. It's reccorded that in both the archaic and classical periods that sikeliote cavalry charged infantry blocks in a shock fashion. Coupling this with the wide use of mercenaries and settling laws makes the states of megas hellas very close to the later diadochoi. Perhaps this was due to the constant warfare in a non formalized way and against non greek peoples, ie: carthage, sikeloi and peoples of central italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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