===[TASK]=== Crowd Sourced - Thracians (Faction)

[Genava55]

1 hour ago, Duileoga said:

-¿Qué se le ocurre para las unidades @Genava55? si me pasan estos cascos tracios con sus texturas, podría intentar hacer algo en un tiempo cercano.

From a historical pov, Thracians were:

• Known for their peltasts and their ability to ambush and harass their enemies.
• Known for their light cavalry.
• Not known for their heavy infantry, their light infantry and light cavalry were able to fight in close combat but they didn't have the same efficiency than the heavy infantry and cavalry from the Greeks and Macedonians. Although their light infantry were able to use kopis and other curved swords to defend themselves.
• Known at some point for their slingers.
• Hiring Greek mercenaries/auxiliaries in some occasions, including hoplites.
• Hiring Getic mercenaries, known for their use of horse archery in some occasions.

I really encourage @Duileoga, @wowgetoffyourcellphone and @Ultimate Aurelian to read the following excerpts, I really think it will interest you and help you to figure out the strengths and weaknesses of the Thracians.

A few excerpts:

Thracian Warfare, a chapter in A Companion to Greek Warfare (2021):

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From the later historical tradition, most notably Herodotus, Thucydides, and Xenophon, one learns about the existence of different troop types and Thracian military tactics. The most common are the light-armed peltasts carrying two javelins, a crescent-shaped shield (pelte), and short swords (encheiridia). They wear fox fur hats, chitons covered with long cloaks called zeirai, and long boots of deerskin (Hdt. 7.75.1). This iconographic type of Thracian warrior circulated, predominantly on redfigure pottery, in the Greek world during the Classical and Hellenistic periods. Heavy infantry, on the other hand, or the hoplites derived from the Greek poleis, remained a foreign concept for the Thracians. The most significant role, reserved traditionally for Thracian nobles, was played by the cavalry, armed with spears, javelins, swords, and bows. The Odrysians and the Getae were especially notable as horse breeders. The figure of 50,000 horsemen, for instance, mustered by Sitalces during his march against the Macedonians in 429 is staggeringly high (Thuc. 2.98.3–4), a testimony to the vast potential of an economy based on horse breeding.

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In the multicolored mosaic of Thracian ethne, several qualities commonly expressed in military contexts and traditionally ascribed to Thracians immediately stand out. Thracians had the reputation of being good and courageous fighters, often depicted as fierce and warlike (Hdt. 7.111.1). They preferred marching and fighting under the cover of night. Upon giving battle they issued vociferous war cries, singing songs and performing war dances, while loudly clashing their weapons (Tacit. Ann. 4.47). The lack of heavy infantry allowed for greater flexibility and a mobile style of military conduct; very often the element of surprise assumed priority. The existence of the wedge formation, which the northern Thracians allegedly learned from the Scythians has been doubted, but on one occasion in 335, Arrian says, the Tribalians positioned themselves against Alexander, divided into a center and two flanks. On account of their maneuverability, Thracian peltasts became sought-after mercenaries after the march of Xerxes in Greece in 480, and especially during the Peloponnesian War and the war between Cyrus the Younger and Artaxerxes in 401.

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In the Hellenistic period, Thracian troops and techniques rulers had a profound impact of Greek warfare. For instance, the Athenian general Iphicrates, who married a daughter of Cotys (383–359), introduced reforms to the cumbersome panoply of Greek hoplites that showcased the effectiveness of Thracian peltasts during the Corinthian War (395–387). After the Macedonian conquest of Thrace by Philip II and Alexander III, Thracian cavalry and light-armed troops (psiloi) began to appear under the supervision of Macedonian and Thracian commanders. This practice continued during the Macedonian Wars, when Thracians fought in the armies of Philip V and Perseus against the Romans in the battles of Cynoscephalae (197), Callinicus (171), and Pydna (168). Thracians who served as mercenaries in the Ptolemaic armies eventually settled in Egypt as military colonists.

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The iron rhomphaia, that peculiar cross between a spear and a sickle, is possibly a Thracian invention that evolved from a farming implement. Thracians in Macedonian service carried it during the First and Second Macedonian Wars, but apparently only in the mountainous west and central Rhodopes. The slashing quality of the weapon made it effective against cavalry in the hands of light troops with small shields (thureoi). Why did this weapon come into use at this time, and not earlier? We do not know. Attempts to identify the weapon on scenes in painted Thracian tombs, e.g. Alexandrovo and Sveshtari, have proved unsatisfactory. An acceptance of this hypothesis still needs to explain why Thracians began to deposit rhomphaiai in graves during and after the First and Second Macedonian Wars, but not earlier.

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The Thracians, like the Scythians, made famous use of the composite bow, which appears in both grave assemblages and artistic representations. Graves of the late fifth and early fourth centuries have thus produced large numbers of bronze arrowheads (Robinson’s Type G1). The differing needs of hunters and warriors may explain various projectile sizes and separate quivers. Although Robinson’s Type G1 arrowheads continued to be used during the Hellenistic period, they crop up in settlements such as Pistiros, Kabyle, Dragoevo, and Seuthopolis, not in graves. They had proved ballistically inferior to Cretan arrowheads (Robinson’s Type D1) and to catapult projectiles made of iron (Robinson’s Type E), which arrived in Thrace with the Macedonian troops of Philip II, Alexander III and the Successors.

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Sling ammunition deposited in graves present another puzzle. Round stones or pebbles put in leather pouches appear conspicuously alongside other weapons in the aristocratic equestrian burials at Golemanite, Veliko Tarnovo, and Aghigiol, but scholars differ about whether they are ammunition. Perhaps they were thrown by hand rather than by a sling. Odrysians are mentioned as skillful stone-throwers (petroboloi) by the early fourth century. Lead sling bullets cast in matrices, on the other hand, arrived in Thrace only with the Macedonians.

Odrysian Cavalry Arms, Equipment, and Tactics (2003):

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The Odrysian army was composed mainly of peltasts and cavalry, the remainder being lighter infantry (javelin men, archers, and slingers). In Sitalkes army, these warriors came from the Odrysai, Getae, eastern Paionians (Agrianians and Laeaeans), Treres, Tilateans, Apsinthii, Krobyzi, Dii (plus Bessi and other mountain tribes), and Thyni. None of the tribes from the Aegean coast (Edoni, Bisaltae etc) joined Sitalkes.

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Greek mercenaries were occasionally hired to make up for the lack of heavy infantry. Iphicrates had 8000 men in Thrace at one stage, but we cannot be sure if this was when he was in Kotys service or when he was campaigning in the same area on Athens behalf. Many of Iphicrates victories were gained using peltasts as the main arm, but what Kotys needed was hoplites, and these probably formed the mainstay of his mercenary force. Unfortunately, when the Macedonians invaded, the Thracians had no such infantry capable of defeating the Macedonian phalanx.

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One of the most powerful of these appeared in 400, when Seuthes II hired the 6,000 or so survivors of Xenophons army to get his own domain on the Black sea coast. They were mainly hoplites, but included nearly 1,000 peltasts, javelinmen, and slingers, and 50 cavalry. Xenophon says simply that Seuthes had an army larger than the Greek army; and that it tripled in size as the news of its success spread. This could mean that Seuthes army grew to a strength of around 20,000 men, including the Greeks. The Thracian contribution to this army would have been around 4,000 Odrysian light cavalry, 500 heavy cavalry, 500 archers and slingers, 7,000 peltasts, and 2,000 javelin-armed lighter infantry.

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Mountain tribes were more warlike and favoured infantry, while those from the plains favoured cavalry. The Odrysai fielded 8,000 horse (28%) and 20,000 foot against Lysimachos. A detachment of Odrysians sent by Seuthes to aid the Spartans in Bithynia in 398 was composed of 200 cavalry (40%) and 300 peltasts. Thucydides says that the Getai and their neighbours by the Danube were all mounted archers in the Skythian style. However, Alexander faced a Getic army of 4000 horse and 10,000 foot, or about 28% cavalry. Seuthes hired 2,000 Getic light troops for use against the Athenians in the Thracian Chersonese, which shows they may have been a regular component of Odrysian armies. So an Odrysian royal army might contain between 25% and 40% cavalry, while the army of a single tribe or group of hill tribes might have much less.

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Horse riding epitomised the Thracians. Euripides and Homer called the Thracians a race of horsemen, and Thrace, the land of the Thracian horsemen. This description seems justified, as even though the cavalry only made up a small proportion of their army, they were quite numerous. For instance, although Sitalkes army was only one-third cavalry, this represented about 50,000 men. The majority of these were Odrysians and Getai. Thus the Odrysians alone could outnumber all the fifth-century Greek cities and other tribal kingdoms collectively in cavalry forces. However, Macedonian heavy cavalry operated against them with impunity when Sitalkes invaded Macedonia. The Macedonians... made cavalry attacks on the Thracian army when they saw their opportunity. Whenever they did so, being excellent horsemen and armed with breastplates, no one could stand up to them... This happened again during the battle of Lyginus between Alexander and the Triballi. The cavalry were chiefly unarmoured javelin-armed skirmishers, with relatively few armoured cavalry forming a bodyguard for the king. This might explain why Sitalkes had no troops able to stand up to the heavy Macedonian cavalry. Against the Greeks, though, they seem to have had more success, with several Greek armies being wiped out during colonisation attempts. Perhaps the best evidence for the success of Thracian cavalry is the way that the mainland Greeks took up Thracian cavalry dress, and horsemanship. Athenian riders wearing Thracian boots and/or Thracian headdress can be seen on the Parthenon frieze, and wearing Thracian cloaks on Athenian pottery.

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The fourth century saw the start of many changes in cavalry dress and equipment. The distinctive Thracian dress was discarded, additional armour of new types was worn, shields and saddles came into use, and light infantry was trained to support cavalry. Light cavalry was now likely to have the basic protection of helmet and shield, while heavy cavalry took to wearing iron helmets and composite corselets. From the late fourth century onwards, Odrysian cavalry operated mostly as allied or subject troops. In particular, Thracian troops were critical to the success of Alexander the Great. They formed about one fifth of his army (25% of the infantry and 20% of the cavalry to begin with) and took part in almost all his battles. Of the forces that crossed to Asia, there were 7,000 Odrysians, Triballi and Illyrians plus 1,000 archers and Agrianians (a Paionian tribe) out of a total of 32,000 foot soldiers. There were also 900 Thracian and Paeonian scouts, out a total of 4,500 cavalry. A further 500 Thracian cavalry joined Alexanders army while it was at Memphis. A body of Odrysian horse (probably heavy cavalry), commanded by Sitalkes, an Odrysian prince, was likewise present. 600 Thracian cavalry and 3,500 Trallians joined Alexander after he left Babylon.

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At the battle of the Granicus in 334, Alexander deployed the Thracians on his left flank, but they were not engaged during the battle. Thracian cavalry took part in Alexanders rapid march to Miletus, and Thracian javelinmen screened the Macedonian left flank in battle against the Pisidians. Before the Battle of Issos (333) we find Alexander using the light armed Thracians to reconnoitre the mountainous surroundings of the Cilician Gates. At the subsequent battle the Thracians were initially in the van of the army, then they were again posted on the left wing, brigaded with Cretan archers. They were also on the left wing at Gaugamela (331), when the savage Thracians (cavalry and infantry) helped beat off a sustained attack by superior numbers of Persian cavalry. However, the Thracian infantry had mixed success defending the baggage against the Indian cavalry. Although many other troops were allowed to return home before or during the march to India, the Thracians stayed on. 3,000 infantry and 500 horsemen would be left as a garrison on the Indus river near the present day city of Rawalpindi. At the battle of the Hydaspes (326), the Thracian light infantry attacked the Indian elephants with copides (curved swords or rhomphaias). The Agrianians in particular were given many critical missions.

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Many other battles in the struggle for Alexanders empire involved Thracian troops. Eumenes deployed Thracians on his left flank at the battle of the Hellespont in 321. At Paraitakene (317), 500 Thracian cavalry fought on one side and 1000 cavalry fought on the other (possibly colonist Thracians verses native Thracians the native Thracians won). Thracian cavalry next rose to prominence in the wars with the Romans. In 171 Perseus was joined by Kotys, king of the Odrysai with 1,000 picked cavalry and about 1,000 infantry. Perseus already had 3,000 free Thracians under their own commander in his forces. These fought like wild beasts who had long been kept caged at the Kallinikos skirmish that year, defeating the Roman allied cavalry. They returned from battle singing, with severed heads as trophies. Their performance at the Battle of Pydna (168) was less remarkable, they are only mentioned when running away, Thracian cavalry are recorded switching sides in 109, when two mercenary squadrons were bribed to let Jugurtha into a Roman camp. The last significant instance of the use of Thracian horsemen seems to be in 71 - while Lucullus was campaigning in Pontus, he used Thracian cavalry to successfully charge Armenian cataphracts in the flank.

Edited April 9, 2023 by Genava55

[Genava55]

I won't post pictures because I am tired of dealing with direct links on this forum.

But in general terms.

The most common helmets used by the Thracians are the Chalkidian and the Phrygian helmets. Phrygian helmets could have facial protections, as it was found with later variants discovered in noble burials.

The most common armors are “bell-shaped” cuirasses (similar to archaic Greek cuirasses) between 600 and 400 BC. Then there are armors with metallic scales and neck protective plates, like the armor found in Golyamata Mogila tumulus. Also the scaled armors depicted on Thracian plates, notably those from the treasure of Letnitsa.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Some thoughts then.

 

Special Technologies:

"Skirmishing Tradition"

• 200 food, 200 wood
• Village Phase
• Civic Center
• Javelin Infantry and Cavalry -50% experience needed for promotion.

"Rhomphaia"

• 400 metal
• Town Phase
• Forge
• Unlocks the Rhomphaiaphoros Sword Infantry, an elite-ranked fast Swordsman from the Barracks.

"Hellenistic Reforms"

• 600 metal, 400 food
• City Phase
• Barracks
• Cavalry +1 all armor types (actors swapped to armored variants, thureos instead of pelta, etc.)

Mercenaries:

Getae Mercenary Cavalry

• Mercenary class Archer Cavalry

Mercenary Greek Hoplite

• Mercenary class Spear Infantry

 

Barracks Units:

Mercenary Greek Hoplite

Triballi Light Swordsman

Thracian Peltast

Thracian Slinger

Rhomphaiaphoros Elite Sword Infantry (unlocked by tech)

 

Stable Units:

Odrysian Heavy Cavalry (spear cav)

Thracian Skirmish Cavalry (jav cav)

Getae Mercenary Cavalry (archer cav)

[Duileoga]

Buenos días o tardes;

-Más avances en las estructuras tracias/odrisios;

2 minutes ago, Duileoga said:

Catálogo:

-Armazem

Cuartel

-C.C

-Casas

-Celeiro

-Curral

-Prédios especiais "Mansión tracia"

-Prédios especiais "tumba"

-Prédios especiais "Palacio tracio"

-Prédios especiais "Povoado tracio"

-Estábulo

-Fortaleça

-Galería de tiroç

-Forja

-Maravilha

-Mercado 

-Muralhas

-Cais

-Taller do cerco

-Templo

-Torre defensiva

-Torre centinela pequeña

 

 

 

 

 

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[Duileoga]

-¿Ustedes que opinan@Lopess , @wowgetoffyourcellphone , @Stan` , @Genava55?,¿ y de los edificios?

 

Importantes líderes Tribales Tracios(Para la "IA");

   Nombre                                                                      Fecha                                                            Original      

                         
1.Olorus                                                            (siglo V a.c)                                      Ὄλορος
2.Syrmios                                                         (siglo  IV a.c)                                      Σύρμος
3.Bergaios                                                      ( 400 – 350 a.c )                                Βεργαῖος 
4.Dromichaetes                                            (300 - c. 280 a. c)                            Δρομιχαίτης                   
5.Diegylis                                                       (siglos III-II a.c)                                   Διήγυλις
6.Zibelmios                                                       (siglo II a.c)                                      Ζιβέλμιος
7.Mostis                                                          (130 a.c-90 a.c)                                    Μόστις                                          
8.Abrupolis                                                    (200 a.c -170 a.c )                             Αβρουπόλις

 

 

Importantes líderes del reino Odrisio (Para la "IA");

   Nombre                                                             Fecha                                                               Original      

                         
1.Teres I                                                   (480 a. C.-450 a. C.)                                 Τήρης
2.Esparádoco                                           (450 a. C.-431 a. C.)                           Σπαράδοκος
3.Sitalces                                                  (431 a. C.-424 a. C.)                              Σιτάλκης
4.Seutes I                                                 (424 a. C.-410 a. C.)                                Σεύθης
5.Amádoco I                                            (410 a. C.-390 a. C.)                              Ἀμάδοκος
6.Hebrizelmis                                          (390 a. C.-384 a. C.)                             Ἑβροζέλμης
7.Cotis I                                                    (384 a. C.-358 a. C.)                                 Κότυς
8.Cersobleptes                                         (358 a. C.-341 a. C.)                          Κερσοβλέπτης 

 

(pongo el nombre en griego antiguo por quien sepa descifrarlo y poner su fonética)

 

 

Lista de otros reyes odrisios

Berisades (358 a. C.-352 a. C.)-------Bηρισάδης
Cetriporis (352 a. C.-347 a. C.)------Κετρίπορις
Amádoco II (358 a. C.-351 a. C.)----Ἀμάδοκος II
Teres II (351 a. C.-342 a. C.)---------Τήρης II
Seutes III (331 a. C.-300 a. C.)------Σεύθης III
Cotis II (300 a. C.-280 a. C.)---------Κότυς II
Raizdos (ca. 280 a. C.)---------------Ροίγος
Cotis III (ca. 270 a. C.)---------------Κότυς III
Rascuporis (240 a. C.-215 a. C.)----Ραισκούπορις
Seutes IV (215 a. C.-190 a. C.)------Σεύθης IV

 

 

Posibles unidades ;
Héroes ;(3)
(Reclutados en ;" Fortaleza")
1." Teres I ";-------------------------------------(Τήρης )
2." Sitalces";-------------------------------------(Σιτάλκης)
3."  Kotys I ";-------------------------------------(Κότυς)
 

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[real_tabasco_sauce]

33 minutes ago, Duileoga said:

1." Teres I ";-------------------------------------(Τήρης )
2." Sitalces";-------------------------------------(Σιτάλκης)
3."  Kotys I ";-------------------------------------(Κότυς)

Awesome work! I really like the look of these buildings now.

potential hero bonuses:

1. Teres I: I don't have a great idea for this guy.

2. Sitalces: This guy seemed to have led some successful invasions, including one into macedon, with a large army from various different regions. How about: +10 pop space, infantry -25% food cost, and cavalry +15% move speed, +10% damage within 45m.

3. Kotys: Seemed to be a great negotiator, always had allies for war. This could be another ally bonus hero, with perhaps speed being prioritized.

Edited April 20, 2023 by real_tabasco_sauce

[Genava55]

21 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

Teres I: I don't have a great idea for this guy.

Teres I is the founder of the Odrysian dynasty. It is generally thought he unified the Thracian tribes to resist against the Persians.

I would give him defensive bonus. Maybe making the capture of the buildings harder. Better recruitment speed too.

[Genava55]

21 hours ago, Duileoga said:

Dromichaetes

Dromichaetes was an incredible leader, he should be considered too in the list of Thracian heroes.

[real_tabasco_sauce]

5 minutes ago, Genava55 said:

I would give him defensive bonus. Maybe making the capture of the buildings harder. Better recruitment speed too.

Yeah thats a good idea. Something globally defensive for buildings. I think it would be cool to make the recruitment speed a lot faster, like 50% faster but only for champions and mercenaries.

Excluding economic units justifies the much faster train time, and also distinguishes it from other train time hero, which is 20% faster with indibil.

[Genava55]

23 hours ago, Duileoga said:

-Prédios especiais "tumba"

23 hours ago, Duileoga said:

-Maravilha

 

This is really nice to finally see the Thracian tombs! Well done.

[Duileoga]

Buenos días o tardes ;

- @wowgetoffyourcellphone te he enviado los modelos para que les eches un vistazo o si quieres retocar las texturas como hiciste con los Suevos.

 

- @Genava55 si me pudiera pasar estos gorros/cascos con sus texturas podría ponerme a hacer las unidades.

On 09/04/2023 at 12:17 PM, Duileoga said:

Buenos días o tardes;

-¿Qué se le ocurre para las unidades @Genava55? si me pasan estos cascos tracios con sus texturas, podría intentar hacer algo en un tiempo cercano.

 

Disculpen las molestias*

 

-¿Ustedes que opinan @Ultimate Aurelian y @wackyserious ?

 

 

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[Genava55]

4 hours ago, Duileoga said:

- @Genava55 si me pudiera pasar estos gorros/cascos con sus texturas podría ponerme a hacer las unidades.

[Duileoga]

2 hours ago, Genava55 said:

Buenos días o tardes @Genava55;

-Yo me refería a tener los cascos y gorros (y sus texturas) que ya existen en el juego "0.a.d ",para  modificar algunos y darles más diversidad de formas y texturas y crear nuevos usando los preexistentes como base.

-mejor en formato blender , pero me sirven también en formatos;

 

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[Lion.Kanzen]

26 minutes ago, Duileoga said:

Buenos días o tardes @Genava55;

-Yo me refería a tener los cascos y gorros (y sus texturas) que ya existen en el juego "0.a.d ",para  modificar algunos y darles más diversidad de formas y texturas y crear nuevos usando los preexistentes como base.

-mejor en formato blender , pero me sirven también en formatos;

 

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Genava es historiador no es artista 2D.

 

No conoce el repositorio de texturas.

[Duileoga]

47 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Genava es historiador no es artista 2D.

 

No conoce el repositorio de texturas.

Buenos días o tardes @Lion.Kanzen:

-¿Me podría usted paras los cascos/gorros y sus texturas en formato Blender o compatible ?por favor.

 

 

 

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[Lion.Kanzen]

Quién mejor te puede ayudar es @wowgetoffyourcellphone

Es el más viejo y experimentado.

El conoce el repositorio mejor que nadie y es experto modder.

1 minute ago, Duileoga said:

Buenos días o tardes @Lion.Kanzen:

-¿Me podría usted paras los cascos/gorros y sus texturas en formato Blender o compatible ?por favor.

 

 

 

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El de esas unidades, tienes la versión SVN o tienes el juego normal?

[Lion.Kanzen]

Estas son del mod pareciera.

[Lion.Kanzen]

El arquero tracio lo vas encontrar en....

0 AD\binaries\data\mods\public\art\actors\units\athenians

con el nombre de

infantry_archer_c

 

Aquí vas a encontrar todo lo relacionado a la apariencia de la unidad.

El meshes es el arte 3D

Más abajo verás el archivo de texturas por ejemplo.

 

<texture file="skeletal/scyth/tunic_coat_01_01.png" name="baseTex"/>

Eso quiere decir que la textura está en...

0 AD\binaries\data\mods\public\art\textures\skins\skeletal\thrac

 

Edited April 22, 2023 by Lion.Kanzen

[Duileoga]

On 22/04/2023 at 6:01 PM, Lion.Kanzen said:

Quién mejor te puede ayudar es @wowgetoffyourcellphone

Es el más viejo y experimentado.

El conoce el repositorio mejor que nadie y es experto modder.

El de esas unidades, tienes la versión SVN o tienes el juego normal?

Buenos días o tardes;

-Tengo el juego normal con los mod's del githtub.¿Por qué?

 

Disculpe las molestias y gracias por la ayuda para los cascos y sus texturas* @Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

@Duileoga te deje una guía para que vayas aprendiendo a depender menos de nosotros.

 

Así aprendes a buscar texturas en el repositorio.

 

Es importante que  sepas que ciertos archivos están en el editor de mapas y del editor vas a la carpeta de actores,  los archivos de actores xml, esto te servirán de guía para saber dónde se encuentran alojado las texturas y otras características visuales de la unidad.

3 minutes ago, Duileoga said:

Buenos días o tardes;

-Tengo el juego normal con los mod's del githtub.¿Por qué?

 

Disculpe las molestias y gracias por la ayuda para los cascos y sus texturas* @Lion.Kanzen

Y el juego lo tienes en SVN o lo descargaste normal como los demás usuarios?

[Duileoga]

28 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

@Duileoga te deje una guía para que vayas aprendiendo a depender menos de nosotros.

 

Así aprendes a buscar texturas en el repositorio.

 

Es importante que  sepas que ciertos archivos están en el editor de mapas y del editor vas a la carpeta de actores,  los archivos de actores xml, esto te servirán de guía para saber dónde se encuentran alojado las texturas y otras características visuales de la unidad.

Y el juego lo tienes en SVN o lo descargaste normal como los demás usuarios?

Buenas ;

-Lo descargué normal , en la página oficial del juego , ¿Por qué lo pregunta?

 

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[Lion.Kanzen]

2 minutes ago, Duileoga said:

Buenas ;

-Lo descargué normal , en la página oficial del juego , ¿Por qué lo pregunta?

 

Disculpe las molestias*

Nosotros usamos una versión de desarrollo llamada SVN(subversión).

 

Es lo mismo pero descomprimida y actualizada.

[Duileoga]

Buenos día o tardes ;

-Esta sería mi idea para las unidades tracias;

(en desarrollo...)

 

(lista en inglés):

Units;(26)

light Infantry ;(4)
("Barracks"&"C.C")
1.Thracian Spearman ;-------------------------------------------------------------(Taruthin )
2.Thracian Peltast ;----------------------------------------------------------------(Skálmēsinas )
(Barracks")
3.Thracian archer;------------------------------------------------------------------(Romfeai )
4.Thracian slinger;------------------------------------------------------------------( ...  )

Champion Infantry ;(4)
(palace "&"Barracks")
5.Odrysian Comander;-----------------------------------------------------------(  )
(palace ")
6.Odrysian  Nobleman ;----------------------------------------------------------(Poris )
("mansion")
7.Odrysian Hoplita ;--------------------------------------------------------------( ... )
8.Odrysian Guard ;----------------------------------------------------------------( Zibythides)

auxiliary Infantry ;(3)
(" Thracian fortificated village ")
9.Auxiliary Thyni (traco-euroasiatic ) ;-------------------------------( ... )
10.Auxiliary Tribalii (traco-celtic);------------------------------------( ... )
11.Auxiliary Dardanian (traco-illyrian);------------------------------( ... )

light Cavalry;(3)
("stable "&"C.C")
12.Agatirsos peltast (traco-scythian);--------------------------( Khōra Hromphaia mezēnai )
("stable ")
13.Geta spearman (traco-dacian) ;-----------------------------( Khōra  mezēnai )

Champion Cavalry;(2)
("stable "&" palace")
15. Odrysian  cavalry Nobleman ;-------------------------------(Zibunthides mezēnai)
("stable ")
16.Odrysian  war-wagon (2 horses and archers) ;---------------(...)

Civilians;(3)
("C.C"&"Houses)
17. Thracian Woman;----------------------------------------------(Dentusykos ) 
("Market")
18. Thracian trader;-----------------------------------------------(Paraoris)Men and Woman
("Temple")
19. Thracian healer;----------------------------------------------(ktístai )

Siege ;(1)
("Arsenal")
20.Greek ram;---------------------------------------------------------( ... thurd ide )

Ships;(3)
(Reclutados en ;" Puerto")
21.Bitinian fishing boat (traco-asiatic) ;---------------------------------( ... )Men and Woman
22.Greek merchant;---------------------------------------------------(... parai )
23.Greek Birreme ;----------------------------------------------------------(...)

Heroes ;(3)
(Mausoleum ")
24." Teres I ";-------------------------------------(Τήρης )
25." Sitalces";-------------------------------------(Σιτάλκης)
26."  Kotys I ";-------------------------------------(Κότυς)

 

-¿Qué opinan @Lopess @Genava55 @Lion.Kanzen @wowgetoffyourcellphone @real_tabasco_sauce @Stan` @Ultimate Aurelian ?

 

 

 

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[Duileoga]

posdata ;

-Aún tengo que terminar las unidades de caballería , navales , algunos auxiliares y incluir el ariete .

[Genava55]

Thanks a lot for the hard work!

22 hours ago, Duileoga said:

1.Thracian Spearman
2.Thracian Peltast
3.Thracian archer
4.Thracian slinger

Good.

22 hours ago, Duileoga said:

5. Odrysian Comander

I don't understand the idea behind this concept. It should represent a generic Odrysian leader? What would be the role of this unit? Why on foot?

22 hours ago, Duileoga said:

6. Odrysian Nobleman

15. Odrysian  cavalry Nobleman ;

A cavalryman should be enough I guess. There is already an Odrysian guard as champion infantry.

22 hours ago, Duileoga said:

7. Odrysian Hoplita

It should be a mercenary hoplite. Odrysians didn't train hoplites but they hired them as auxiliaries or mercenaries.

22 hours ago, Duileoga said:

8. Odrysian Guard

Fighting with a rhomphaia I guess? Yes, it could be a plausible name.

22 hours ago, Duileoga said:

16.Odrysian  war-wagon (2 horses and archers)

Is there any evidence for war chariot among Thracians, furthermore with archers? I don't think so.

22 hours ago, Duileoga said:

13.Geta spearman (traco-dacian)

I would say it is better to depict the Getae among the auxiliaries and as a horse archer unit.