Stan` Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Hi, it's me again this time for a WIP gaul farmstead according to this reference from AOE if i'm correct : Also I want to know which hand cart do you prefer ? Comes from those references ; 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niektb Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 No, it's not AoE (at least not vanilla)Furthermore I prefer the first handcart. Also the wooden part of the roof looks to flat. You should try to tilt it slightly and use a rougher texture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 You could actually make individual slats for the wooden part of the roof. 10 triangles per slat or beam ( a box minus the one end sticking into the building) is pretty cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sighvatr Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Looks like the stables from Age of Empires 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niektb Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Looks like the stables from Age of Empires 2.It has the same 2D style but isn't part of the official game. (Perhaps from Steam Workshop?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 It has the same 2D style but isn't part of the official game. (Perhaps from Steam Workshop?) Don't know anyway here is what I've got so far : 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanderd17 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 It all looks very clean to me. Gallic buildings can use a lot more organic shapes. Nothing perfectly straight or round. It will cost more polies, but that's not so bad for a building.The building itself looks quite big for its footprint though. Can you compare with other farms? I have no idea if it's going the right direction, as I don't know the wanted direction. That's something for the art team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Probably shorten up the main section a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProvencalLeGaullois Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 BEAUTIFUL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) BEAUTIFUL!Thank You ! =)Probably shorten up the main section a bit.It all looks very clean to me. Gallic buildings can use a lot more organic shapes. Nothing perfectly straight or round. It will cost more polies, but that's not so bad for a building.The building itself looks quite big for its footprint though. Can you compare with other farms? I have no idea if it's going the right direction, as I don't know the wanted direction. That's something for the art team.What about now ? =) Also the wall at the back is rounded not square. Edited December 31, 2013 by stanislas69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 I'd scale up the cart. Compare it to a cart already in the game.Compare the scale of this building with something like the Roman farmstead. As long as it's no bigger than the Roman Farmstead, which is the biggest one in the game I believe, then the scale is probably fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 It's perfect now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sighvatr Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Looks really good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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greycat Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) This picture may help with the dimensions. It is from Open-Air Archaeological Museum Liptovska Mara - Havranok, Slovakia. Reconstructed shape of Celtic (La Tène) farmstead from the Upper Iron Age (300-100 B.C.)http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Celtic_settlement-Open-Air_Archaeological_Museum_Liptovska_Mara_-_Havranok%2CSlovakia..jpg Edited December 31, 2013 by greycat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quantumstate Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 That looks really nice.One thing I am not keen on is the wood plank roof. Firstly it is flat, flat roofs are really bad at keeping water out, making them slope a bit is pretty easy so I would assume people in wet areas wouldn't make them flat. Also the lengths vary a lot, whever I have built something I tend to cut things to be the same length, everyone in the modern world does that so I woud have thought the gauls might have as well (producing wooden planks was a lot of effort back in those times so you wouldn't use them in a quickly thrown together structure you didnt care about). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 I think the planks need a little more play in them, myself.perhaps not in length but in thickness, spacing, and lateral rotationthe farmstead is really coming along well, great job! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted December 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) This picture may help with the dimensions. It is from Open-Air Archaeological Museum Liptovska Mara - Havranok, Slovakia. Reconstructed shape of Celtic (La Tène) farmstead from the Upper Iron Age (300-100 B.C.)http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Celtic_settlement-Open-Air_Archaeological_Museum_Liptovska_Mara_-_Havranok%2CSlovakia..jpgAccording to this I should scale it down a little. Thank you.That looks really nice.One thing I am not keen on is the wood plank roof. Firstly it is flat, flat roofs are really bad at keeping water out, making them slope a bit is pretty easy so I would assume people in wet areas wouldn't make them flat. Also the lengths vary a lot, whever I have built something I tend to cut things to be the same length, everyone in the modern world does that so I woud have thought the gauls might have as well (producing wooden planks was a lot of effort back in those times so you wouldn't use them in a quickly thrown together structure you didnt care about).I was sticking to the model so i didn't really think about it. I could turn them a little down like on the other side and make them uniform. About water since there is space on the planks, maybe that wasn't an issue.I think the planks need a little more play in them, myself.perhaps not in length but in thickness, spacing, and lateral rotationthe farmstead is really coming along well, great job!Okay, I will fix this.EDIT : Edited December 31, 2013 by stanislas69 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idanwin Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Much better! (but there is still a flat part)I really like the design.Maybe you should lower the planks a bit entirely, now they seem to be above the main roof they should start under it (so that the water does not get blocked between the two). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) According to this I should scale it down a little. Thank you.I was sticking to the model so i didn't really think about it. I could turn them a little down like on the other side and make them uniform. About water since there is space on the planks, maybe that wasn't an issue.Okay, I will fix this.EDIT :Perfect, you are getting to feeling that make awsome on this project Edited January 1, 2014 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greycat Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) According to this I should scale it down a little. Thank you.Glad I could help. I had a few suggestions to make it more accurate.Make the peak longer than base of house. So if the door is say 250 the peak would be about 500 (I used ruler in photoshop to get a rough ratio) Also the roof should extend down slightly past middle of door. (I think this steep angle is to keep snow off) Also there would be no chimney at this time.This is front angle of same house. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Celtic_settlement-Open-Air_Archaeological_Museum_Liptovska_Mara_-_Havranok%2CSlovakia.jpg Edited January 1, 2014 by greycat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanderd17 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Make the peak longer than base of house. So if the door is say 250 the peak would be about 500 (I used ruler in photoshop to get a rough ratio) Also the roof should extend down slightly past middle of door. (I think this steep angle is to keep snow off) Also there would be no chimney at this time.Note that the scale is always a bit exaggerated in the game. When units are considered to have the correct size. Buildings will be scaled down to 3/4th of the size, and doors and windows (as a compromise) to something like 7/8th (so they look rather large in the game)http://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/ArtDesignDocument#ScaleandProportions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Here are two variation of the model. The historical one and the other with just the height of the roof fixed. I don't really know what to do with the back part on the last one, that's why its flat. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Both are very good but which fit best in the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 There can be variations 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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