Mega Mania Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Thank you for the information, at least i have an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Mania Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 But why name it Phalangitès Makedonikos instead of Chalkaspides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 But why name it Phalangitès Makedonikos instead of Chalkaspides?Yeah, you're right. It should be Chalkaspides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Mania Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Generic Name: Companion Cavalry.Specific Name: Hetairos.Class: Cavalry Spearman.Hacker Armament: Macedonian cavalry lance, the "xyston". Decorative sword.Appearance:Basic: .Advanced: .Elite: .Figure(s): -History: There were two guard cavalry regiments, each 1,000 strong. These were the Agema (the 'Guards') and the Hetairoi ('Companions'). The Hetairoi were recruited from the younger generation of military settlers and acted as the standing guard cavalry unit of the army, serving in peace and in war. However it seems that writers referred to them by several names other than just the 'companions'; the basilike ile ('royal squadron' or 'regia ala' according to Livy), and the hippos hetairike ('horse companions'). Their full title may well have been the 'royal ala of the companions'.Garrison: 2.Function: Good vs. Skirmishers and Swordsmen, poor vs. Spearmen and Archers.Special: Upon promoting to the 3rd ('elite') rank, the Companion becomes a Cataphract champion cavalry with extra armor and attacking power.Why don't we merged two unit as one because it doesn't worth the resources to train Hetairos while we could train Kataphraktos or unless it's main function was to portray the evolution of the Seleucid shock cavalry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Mania Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Generic Name: Citizen-Militia Cavalry.Specific Name: Hippakontistès Politès.Class: Cavalry Skirmisher 2.Ranged Armament: Javelins. Clutch of Javelins in his left hand.Appearance:Basic: .Advanced: N/A.Elite: N/A.History: .Garrison: 2.Function: .Special: Trained from the Civic Center-only. Trains fast, but weak. Does not promote to higher ranks.Do we need this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted October 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Generic Name: Companion Cavalry.Specific Name: Hetairos.Class: Cavalry Spearman.Hacker Armament: Macedonian cavalry lance, the "xyston". Decorative sword.Appearance:Basic: .Advanced: .Elite: .Figure(s): -History: There were two guard cavalry regiments, each 1,000 strong. These were the Agema (the 'Guards') and the Hetairoi ('Companions'). The Hetairoi were recruited from the younger generation of military settlers and acted as the standing guard cavalry unit of the army, serving in peace and in war. However it seems that writers referred to them by several names other than just the 'companions'; the basilike ile ('royal squadron' or 'regia ala' according to Livy), and the hippos hetairike ('horse companions'). Their full title may well have been the 'royal ala of the companions'.Garrison: 2.Function: Good vs. Skirmishers and Swordsmen, poor vs. Spearmen and Archers.Special: Upon promoting to the 3rd ('elite') rank, the Companion becomes a Cataphract champion cavalry with extra armor and attacking power.Why don't we merged two unit as one because it doesn't worth the resources to train Hetairos while we could train Kataphraktos or unless it's main function was to portray the evolution of the Seleucid shock cavalry?You answer your own question.Generic Name: Citizen-Militia Cavalry.Specific Name: Hippakontistès Politès.Class: Cavalry Skirmisher 2.Ranged Armament: Javelins. Clutch of Javelins in his left hand.Appearance:Basic: .Advanced: N/A.Elite: N/A.History: .Garrison: 2.Function: .Special: Trained from the Civic Center-only. Trains fast, but weak. Does not promote to higher ranks.Do we need this?Why not? The Seleucids had citizen militia cavalry and infantry in each of the four tetrapoleis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Mania Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 Will there be any confusion between Macedonian Hetairos and the Seleucid Hetairos when the Seleucid was introduce in the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 How can be a confusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Mania Posted October 8, 2013 Report Share Posted October 8, 2013 The confusion which i mean that a Macedonian Hetairos was a Champion Cavalry while a Seleucid Hetairos was not, the former cannot perform food gathering task (meat gathering) while the latter was able to perform such task because they are no longer considered as Champion Cavalry. The another problem is will the Seleucid Hetairos who have become a Kataphraktos retains the ability to collect food or they lost their basic ability and become a dedicated soldier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted October 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Where did you get this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Total war center, my other forum. ( but never posted anything there). Last night finding German stuff.Was a topic asking for masked units for Rome II. Edited October 14, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDM Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 Check this out:http://artefacts-berlin.de/uruk-seleucid/index.php?l=eng Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted October 17, 2013 Report Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) Amazing, I see something similar with, is a pdfhttp://www.academia.edu/970306/The_Oriental_Agora_the_Case_of_Seleucid_Europos-DuraWith masked cataphract, this where I found. exactly http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?600743-Will-be-in-game-Hellenistic-bearded-face-masked-helmet-in-Rome-2Now i found this, is Roman Syrian or Syrian? Edited October 18, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGood Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Article could help us with architectural reconstructions if we read into it, though its lacking visualshttp://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/architecture-i 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Seleukos Monolftalmos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomySVK Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Greetings my first post here The game is great, keep the great work This is Philip II on the picture, I never read about Seleukos Monolftalmos. Or it´s some joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Greetings my first post here The game is great, keep the great work This is Philip II on the picture, I never read about Seleukos Monolftalmos. Or it´s some joke? its right Philippus II was a one eyed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Did they really have that leopard skin as a saddle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoekeloosNL Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Did they really have that leopard skin as a saddle ?Yes they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 We need a new horse texture then ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Seleucid architecture. Must read (from this page)The Seleucid architecture of Iran encompasses the buildings constructed during the period of Greek power from 330 B.C. through the 2nd century B.C. The terminal date varies from region to region, since the Seleucid Greeks continually lost control of area to the Parthians invading from the northeast and to various local warlords. The scarcity of historical documents complicates the identification of structures erected under Greek rule, and archeological investigations have produced no Seleucid site comparable to Aï Khanum (see Āy Ḵānom) in Afghanistan or Failaka in the Persian Gulf. The situation is further confused by the fact that Greek masons and stonecutters were employed by the Achaemenids as early as the late 6th century B.C. It is entirely likely that elements of their influence persisted in later times. Thus mere classical appearance is not a reliable indication of Seleucid date. The spectacular temple at Kangāvar exemplifies the problems of identifying Seleucid architecture. The large structure with its great Ionic columns set on a high stone platform has been equated with a Greek temple noted by Isidore of Charax and mentioned in a royal Seleucid inscription dated 193 B.C. found at Nehāvand. Recent excavations, however, support Sasanian rather than Seleucid dating. The Ionic structure at Ḵorra, near Qom in central Iran, is similarly problematic. The ruin has been called both a Parthian temple and a Seleucid. Ḵorra is distinctly Greek in style but finds no real parallel in any other Greek or Iranian monuments. Random finds of fragmentary Ionic bases and portions of pilasters suggest that classical, or classicizing, buildings also existed at Bīsotūn and at least three sites in Azerbaijan. Whether these are Seleucid or Parthian is not certain. A better indication of Greek architecture may be the presence of fired clay roofing tiles. These tiles are not characteristic of Iranian architectural practice in any period and thus may serve as clear indication of a strong Greek presence. Such tiles, known from Qaḷʿa-ye Zoḥāk in Azerbaijan and from the great city of Susa in Ḵūzestān, show that gable-roofed structures in the Greek style existed in Iran. Furthermore, the ridge tiles from Susa are ornamented with palmettes, another Greek characteristic. The type of buildings constructed in the Seleucid period at Susa is unknown, though a temple of Herakles and a theater have been placed in the section known as the Ville des Artisans by Roman Ghirshman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Some architectural references:http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8Fp46aTV4pw/TskYhxzHdII/AAAAAAAAAW4/Hdc0ktbF6Iw/s1600/Antioqu%25C3%25ADa.bmphttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CapitalSharp.jpg (from this page)More from Hatra city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 Ruins in a small greek city Aphrodisias in Caria (Anatolia)http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Tetrapil%C3%B3n_-_Afrodisias_-_02.jpgSeleucid phalangite:http://community.imaginefx.com/fxpose/caliburns_portfolio/images/133756/original.aspxhttp://community.imaginefx.com/fxpose/caliburns_portfolio/images/152392/original.aspxAnother cataphract unit ref:http://community.imaginefx.com/fxpose/caliburns_portfolio/images/132623/original.aspxMore units + armored elephant (not sure if its posted already in this topic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomySVK Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 Here is the link to Ai Khanoum 3D recontruction, city was founded by Seleucid kings. It may help with architecture: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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