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Germans would be the most consistent with the other civs.

The word "Germani" is first popularized by Caesar, he used it to group a large population under one label and he built a narrative with it. There is a debate among scholars to know if Caesar was really the original source, maybe Posidonius of Apameia was the actual original transmitter of the word. But there is no consensus. Furthermore, there is a plausible hypothesis where Posidonius transmitted the named "Germani" to specifically speak about a tribe, not a large group. Tacitus mentioned that the name was originally applied to the Tungri only, then it has been generalized to others. Maybe Tacitus was relying on Posidonius because Caesar doesn't mention the Tungri. Caesar mentions the Aduatuci, the Condrusi, the Eburones, the Caeraesi and the Paemani as being commonly named Germans. Which is interesting because the Tungri could be another name of the Aduatuci. Finally there is something interesting in relation to the Cimbri here: The Aduatuci are a remnant of the Cimbri and Teutones who tried to invade the Belgians and failed. This is explained by Caesar. So the descendants of the Cimbri and Teutones could have been called Germans a few decades after their wandering. Thus, the Romans did call a large population Germans. German is not a label the tribes used to call themselves, but so do is the name Gaul. The concern with the name Germans and its correspondence with present-day Germans dates back to the Second World War and the Nazis' use of the Germanic theme as an ideological justification. But at no point is anyone going to make the same criticism of the use of the name Greek for the ancient populations of Greece when the Greeks of today bear the same name. The same goes for the Egyptians, the Chinese, the Belgians etc. I don't see why today's Germans should have exclusive use of this name. What's more, the problem only exists with English, and the world does not revolve around Anglo-Saxon countries alone. ‘Deutsch’ in German. ‘Allemands’ in French. ‘Tedeschi’ in Italian. ‘Alemán’ in Spanish. For me, the only problem with the Cimbri is that they come into conflict with a future faction of the Germans and that they're a single, relatively unknown people. The concept seems interesting, although I haven't tried the faction out yet. If we rename the Cimbri as Germans, it is fine for me. Although it is a bit sad to reduce the Germans to a single tribe.

There is a blog article about it here: https://www.comitatus.net/greekbellybow.html Although it is not really related to the Macedonians but to the Greeks in general, it is a real ancient weapon. Edit: There is a plausible evidence for its use in Macedonia in the 2nd century BC: https://www.academia.edu/31610915/Perimortem_Weapon_Trauma_to_the_Thoracic_Vertebrae_of_a_2nd_Century_BC_Adult_Male_Skeleton_from_Central_Macedonia_Northern_Greece_2004_Death_from_a_catapulted_bolt_head_Journal_of_Paleopathology

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@borg- I think you are the author of this change right? To be fair it is not worse than the Marian reform, which didn't exist but is a modern construction from the historiography. Maybe we can let this one pass, although we need to explicitly say in the encyclopedia he is not Athenian and it has been decided for the gameplay.

Is it happening when there is no battle formation as well?

The Zapotecs: Princes, Priests, and Peasants Although the Zapotecs have lost most of their cultural distinctiveness and undergone many changes, their way of life still displays links with a rich and fabled past. For more than three thousand years, the Zapotec-speaking peoples have occupied the fertile Valley of Oaxaca of southern Mexico – a region that was one of the earliest fully developed civilizations in America. There the Zapotec princely and priestly elites ruled a complex social and political organization, the theocratic state, and the Zapotec temple city of Monte Alban became one of the great cultural centers of Mesoamerica. The decline of the Zapotec civilization, and of Monte Alban as a civil and religious center, began before A.D. 900, with a shift toward divisive militarism, with the arrival of the Mixtecs in the thirteenth century and the rise of the Mixtec-Puebla culture, and with the invasion of the tribute-demanding Mexicas in the fifteenth century. The Zapotec princes’ elite status and most of the religious and political traditions ended. Finally, with the Spanish Conquest, when most of the Zapotecs and Mixtecs were reduced to rural, subject peasantry. This account of the Zapotecs and their worlds is what the author calls anthropological history. He draws on and integrates findings from archaeology, ethnology, ethnohistory, social anthropology, and other fields to reveal as fully as possible the worlds of the Zapotecs. The author, Joseph W. Whitecotton, was Associate Professor of Anthropology at the University of Oklahoma. Zapotec Civilization: How Urban Society Evolved A description of the work of Kent Flannery, Joyce Marcus and their colleagues in Mexico's Oaxaca Valley where the Zapotecs created one of the world's original civilizations. At its peak 1500 years ago, the Zapotec capital of Monte Alban - with its magnificent temples, tombs, ballcourts and hieroglyphic inscriptions - dominated a society of over 100,000 people with farflung territorial outposts. Yet a millennium earlier Monte Alban had been uninhabited and the valley's population less than one tenth its later size. The authors of the book go back to the beginnings of the settlement in Oaxaca 10,000 years ago to provide the answers to what caused this sudden cultural flowering. Ancient Zapotec Religion: An Ethnohistorical and Archaeological Perspective Ancient Zapotec Religion is the first comprehensive study of Zapotec religion as it existed in the southern Mexican state of Oaxaca on the eve of the Spanish Conquest. Author Michael Lind brings a new perspective, focusing not on underlying theological principles but on the material and spatial expressions of religious practice. Using sixteenth- and seventeenth-century Spanish colonial documents and archaeological findings related to the time period leading up to the Spanish Conquest, he presents new information on deities, ancestor worship and sacred bundles, the Zapotec cosmos, the priesthood, religious ceremonies and rituals, the nature of temples, the distinctive features of the sacred and solar calendars, and the religious significance of the murals of Mitla—the most sacred and holy center. He also shows how Zapotec religion served to integrate Zapotec city-state structure throughout the valley of Oaxaca, neighboring mountain regions, and the Isthmus of Tehuantepec. Ancient Zapotec Religion is the first in-depth and interdisciplinary book on the Zapotecs and their religious practices and will be of great interest to archaeologists, epigraphers, historians, and specialists in Native American, Latin American, and religious studies. Zapotec: An Affectionate Portrait Of Southern Mexico And Its 3000 Year Old Culture This engrossing study of southern Mexico, an area fabulous for what it has already yielded to devoted archaeologists, haunting for what it has not yet revealed, centers about the Zapotec as the matrix of the Oaxaca peoples and builders of a glorious ancient culture. First we come to know the peoples of Oaxaca as they are today— the fifteen tribes, their fiestas and ways of life, their cities. Then we travel back in the vertical time of the Indians to trace the possible routes that led to the building of Monte Alban and other sites of ancient civilizations, surmise the reign of the Zapotec to its checking by the Aztec, to the acceptance of the Spaniards as deliverers from the Aztecs and allies against the Mixtecs, and see the consummation of the Zapotec heritage in the person of Benito Juarez, the great and progressive hero of Mexican unification. A fruitful approach to a fascinating research area, this achieves the vertical time of the Indians in showing the unity and change of past and present and gives the reader an insight into the theories research evokes and the facts it assures. Zapotec Monuments and Political History Of the four major hieroglyphic writing systems of ancient Mesoamerica, the Zapotec is widely considered one of the oldest and least studied. This volume assesses the origins and spread of Zapotec writing; the use and role of Zapotec writing in the politics of the region; and the decline of hieroglyphic writing in the Valley of Oaxaca. Lavishly illustrated with maps, photographs, and original artwork.

Yes I understand your idea. But oral tradition is generally related to myths and folklore. Achilles, Cúchulainn and Beowulf were characters from oral traditions until someone wrote the stories down. And there is a long chronological distance between the known legends and the ancient people.

Welcome to Achilles, Cúchulainn and Beowulf ? Because most of the evidence comes from the Monte Albán III, a phase which is labelled the "Golden Age" or the Classical period of the Zapotecs. Most of the previous buildings have been rebuilt several times. This is similar to Rome, almost all of the ancient Roman buildings still standing are from the imperial period.

Of course it is an option. We could also toss out the awful idea of separating the two time periods into two games (or expansions/mods/whatever Empires Ascendants and Empires Besieged are), that way we can include the Zapotecs more easily from the mod. What's more, as the team has decided to follow the path of eternal releases, freeing itself from explicit milestones (alpha, beta...), this division clearly no longer makes sense.

Could you name three historical figures from any pre-columbian civilizations who lived during the time-frame 500 BC to 100 AD?

Kushites, Mauryans, Han Chineses are Europeans now?

Weird bug on the forum

Foundation

new trailer for The Bustling World Ancient Chinese RPG The Bustling World is, in fact, all of the genres, from city builder to life sim https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/ancient-chinese-rpg-the-bustling-world-is-in-fact-all-of-the-genres-from-city-builder-to-life-sim

Which model of graphic card ?

Manor Lords has become a much better and complete game.

Parade helmet from Musée Rolin, Autun, France.

Strategos

Si jamais ce n'est vraiment pas clair, tu peux poster un message en deux parties. D'abord en français et ensuite en anglais avec une simple traduction deepl. Il y a quelques francophones ici qui peuvent te répondre en français. --- If it's really not clear, you can post a message in two parts. First in French and then in English with a simple deepl translation. There are a few French speakers here who can reply in French.

Stop acting like this. It is immature and you are not giving a good image of yourself.

This one? https://www.inrap.fr/autour-du-temple-qasr-al-bint-petra-14910 I know it is sad that it is not possible to implement buildings who mixes terrain/biome elements, but I think it would be disappointing to not have the buildings everyone imagine or have seen about Petra.

It is not entirely true. They are using a pseudo-historical narrative based on Sun Tzu. The difference is using a proper historically based scenario or having a scenario more explicitly being a tutorial.