G.O.A.T
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if @Norse_Harold doing his job bad, I would volunteer to replace him. Anyway I'm not sure if situation would be even better for "these toxic minority players"...
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2 hours ago, MarcusAureliu#s said:
Maybe there should be rules on what mods can be used
That a great question from @MarcusAureliu#s I was also thinking to attend such tournament, but I don't own G.O.A.T credentials (anyone would donate it to me?)
If such rules would be written - how would be enforced, as far as I know there is no such ability at this point of time.
The only way to enforce specific mods to be used - some control checksum of specific control js files would need to be generated and regularly sent to host of the game.
This way you would avoid "replacing files" on the fly or even putting things to "public mod only" so user would not be spotted in listing of mods.
None of these is implemented - and currently there is no enough workforce to do that.
We can only rely on fairness of players - If i look back to smurfs wall project... we can see it was even hard for players to avoid it (many had different reason some good some questionable)... we can conclude cheating is essential element of the game. There for maybe 4v4 make more sense.... expecting not everyone will have access to best "tools"
I truly respect coordinators who put effort to organize tournaments and anything 0ad related. Why people have such hate against them? Because some people cheats? or setup their environment to get better response etc? The whole world even in financials looking for "better approaches", in the end it leads to addressing issue, innovations -> better lives...
Respect to Stockfish, and disrespect to all haters... Nobody force you to play it...
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3 minutes ago, rm -rf said:
More and more funnier. @G.O.A.Tyou break GDPR et al. because you're collecting all player's privata data without any consent.
You gave consent to Wildfire for many things - please read what you agreed and then eat your banana.
I strictly don't care about my smurf accounts being public.. strictly...
But I strongly care about my privacy which you're snooping and the dead direction where you're leading the community.
Ego and way of talk tracking is something not covered by GDPR, or yes?
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to moderators: maybe consider lock this down - it was answered and it looks it goes offtopic
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34 minutes ago, rm -rf said:
Weird, isn't it? People who were collecting private data without agreement, creating wall of shame with them, are now scared that their private messages are read by Wildfire.
ugh..
You are putting words which are not mine at all. to clarify i opened this topic because suddenly I could not find user Sevda on this forum anymore and just wanted to get some explanation. Further I never pointed to WildfireGames to be doing anything bad.
If they are forced to access private data because there is violation they are fully in control and they need to follow law (I guess in case of criminal acts it is possible to do that).
It is only you who has hate speech me. Maybe because I exposed your smurfs accounts (what else reason right?) Well, you deserved it
G.O.A.T
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11 hours ago, rm -rf said:
Total bullshit from who is spying all players.
@G.O.A.T would you mind replying this basic question ? What's your purpose behind destroying 0AD community?
my 2 cents: why not uninstalling the game if you want stopping playing?
@Yekaterina / Sevda / Helicity / @G.O.A.T et al. it's easy to catch you via web access log.
I would consider it as simple as your mainlog parsing or your trivial bots via XMPP
@Dunedan @Stan` Do you need my help here ? How long the community would have to support @G.O.A.T ?
It looks very simple but no actions on your side.
Dear ooo,
you are off topic right? Either make own thread with appropriate text, or sent private message to devs.
PS: Please stop spreading false private statements of me -> age, either prove it or act accordingly (remove it - I don't really want ask moderators...)
G.O.A.T
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Hello
May i know what happened to this forum user @sevda ? We had some private chat and now I can't see this user..
Someone is trying to break my privacy or can I get some explanation?
G.O.A.T
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6 minutes ago, MarcusAureliu#s said:
Are you biased bc it will make it harder to identify smurf accounts ? xD Given all the mistakes maybe you should use it as a more advanced method though
I already gave interesting ways how to strengthen security. Interesting - people just interested in personal attacks.. yes it is very normal to overlook important thing and focus on bias.
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1 minute ago, Helicity said:
Yes, inside the mainlog.html and user.cfg the passwords are displayed as a string of alphanumerical gibberish. I haven't been able to convert this string back to the correct password.
I am suggesting we apply the same scrambling algorithm to the IP addresses that are displayed in the log. In other words, TLS encrypt the IP before writing it into the log.
Understand security by obscurity - for fools to feel safe...
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3 minutes ago, Helicity said:
Agreed, even so, we could still intercept all network data using packet sniffers and some other techniques. However, having a layer of encryption would prevent a large number of less tech savvy users like me from seeing people's IP. So far I haven't figured out how to decrypt the passwords.
Decrypt password? The communication to lobby server is secured via TLS layer. User password is by default encypted. or we are on different level of understanding?
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@HelicityYou are almost there. Next step is to close source code otherwise any changes won't help. That said It is impossible to expect 100% security.
There is still possibility to read data directly from memory... If you have access to your pc there is no way to hide it..
The real problem is network stack / no encryption of exchanged data. No trustworthy HOST of the game. Only if wildfiregames would host games it could ensure some level of privacy is kept.
Otherwise some G.O.A.T will arise (not talking of me, it was just funny hypothetical example) but could be easily YOU.
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Reading chat while playing game directly in-game is definitely different approach what @Helicitypresenting at his case.
On screenshot it is clearly visible that player responding to ally chat.
I'm not here to defend @rossenburg, he just could be honest and admit he has ability to read it in-game. He did not and his answer simply tries to move your focus to different topic even very similar.
I can confirm that is very easy read players (even enemy) chat by simply changing single condition in specific file.
I would call for messaging in-game redesign as developers already knows for many years it is not secure.
as workaround (not always possible) you can try use voice chat with other 3rd party apps.
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19 minutes ago, Yekaterina said:
You have accused many people on your list, the list is not personal, but on many occasions your remarks are directed against me. For example, in the Ratingd disputes thread, you commented "smurf strikes back" - satirically targeting me.
Alter ego is not just smurfing; it suggests that I have split personalities which is a mental health issue.
Your comment suggests that you support weirdJokes' accusation. I also interpret that as an personal aggression: at the bare minimum, you are using a metaphor to imply that I am as horrible as Shyft. I've never met you or talked to you before in the lobby so it was not just.
Your smurf list is not just an opinion but a conjecture. You likely traced people's IP in order to obtain those. The accounts which I have used only once was listed without error, but the accounts which I play often with were not on the list, because I used a VPN when using these frequent accounts. An account which I created but never played with was on the list (I didn't use a VPN when logging in), which suggests you are tracking my IP. Why don't you use this tracing tech to see whether I am actually Shyft? I don't know whether this act is legal in Bangladesh but tracking IP without concent is certainly a violation of data protection acts of both the UK and the EU. Since you are spreading this list (actually a list of victims violated by you) on the forum, I believe the manager of the forum @Stan` who lives in the EU should interfere.
As I have pointed out before, your list is not perfect and has some major errors. For example you put some of my accounts into berhudars list and his into mine. There are also names under my list that I have never seen before or clearly aren't me.
You should also apologize to weirdJokes for identifying him as PhyZic. You are calling weirdJokes a rude person in writing that in your list. That's also very offensive and it is certainly wrong.
@MarcusAureliu#s please elaborate more on EU law and PhyZic's offenses.
I publicly claim just with this sentence (and also one before you responded) I do not support weirdJokes suggestion you are "Shyft Sierra".
To the smurf list - It is collaborative list from multiple sources and people - sorry I won't reveal any of them. You can try suggest fixes in the list if you want.
If you read that list you probably noticed there are some records with different coloring and text style. Also explanation that list can contain wrong entries.
I never called weirdJokes a rude person - it is just your imagination. He claimed not being PhyZic in public and we are reviewing it (we are slow, but soon to be resolved)
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10 hours ago, Yekaterina said:
And @G.O.A.T I don't know what's up with you or what you have against me. You seem to be following me around and dropping in random comments calling me smurf. Since you only exist on the forum, would you like to raise your concerns regarding me to @Stan`? If you believe that I have mental health conditions then I'd appreciate it if you can recommend me a psychiatrist.
@YekaterinaI have nothing against anyone here. I just catch smurfs and report them. You are correct, comments related to smurfing. It is not just you whom I revealed => no personal interest.
I never mentioned your mental health issue.
Alter ego is just another wording for impersonating to someone else or pretending to be someone else. Simply smurfing from my point of view.
as @Lion.Kanzenwisely advised "don't let the opinion of strangers on the internet affect you." It is just opinion.
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If I read correctly the messages is "I'm not Shyft Sierra" so who you are?
I got it.. Alter ego is someone else.
How many of them do you have? .... can anybody even guess it?
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It is interesting how many hypocrites are here to arguing how bad is making available for public some game mod providing some fancy stuff.
It means nobody will make such flame-war for these not disclosing anything.
Same story came to me when I revealed smurfs and so much hate...
Smurfing is also another kind of cheating.
@Atrikgo on, develop your mod and fsck everyone, do not disclose anything and let them live in dark. Play, enjoy and have big smile and relax. There will be always hater, trolls and stupid public.
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Smurfs strikes back?
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I made voting page, please provide me feedback. I feel so much hate here, show yourself publicly
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Hello 0ad audience,
This Topic is about voting to provide me feedback related to smurfs account on my profile page. Try be honest
Long discussion is also in this topic thread which was my motivation.
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@guerringuerrinbest would be just private msg to me, having too many notification I almost overlook your post
I will review your request. Patience with me.
@DakaraWould you mind to provide that shared account name? I would be blessed to enhance my personal notes.
@hyperion What a democratic country for sure
In my country we don't have such mess. but still, no judge no prison right?
Motto of this discussion could be:
If you throw a stone at the geese, the one that feels it squeals most -
My best guess of winner:
ValihrAnt (2322) vs thephilosopher (1305) -> ValihrAnt
Stockfish (1833) vs Dakara (1772) -> Francais
Feldfeld (2169) vs kun0 (1547) -> novax
Edwarf (1861) vs PhiliptheSwaggerless (1646) -> NastasenIf you need still one player I could join with any publicly shared account
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9 minutes ago, rm -rf said:
I'm not aware of holding any of your IP, DNS, geo locs of yours UDP connections.
I totally agree GDPR also consider IP address as personal data if connected to real person.
Anyway I strongly disagree with argument that if in any my local file there is your IP address stored by any means this IP address is connected to your real person - it looks to me to be annonymized. Wildfiregames also states in their agreements they do not have knowledge who are you, as they don't require to collect such data as other companies are forced to do (like banks, or other commercial services).
In this case I consider myself as player of the game with same restriction and agreement approval as you.
Further you are addressing some player names like alocaloc and sanafur which are not familiar to me, you might need address it directly to them.
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@rm -rfMy computer does not store any your personal data. anyway to be sure it stores them kindly provide me your personal details to match them like your real name, address, your provider details, your IP address.
Regarding the game, my best guess is if players joining the lobby the all accept agreements to be able to join each other or the way game is designed.
If you are accusing me of some wrongdoing and misusing your personal data, kindly proceed by laws you mentioning. I'm not aware of any, and provided smurfs list is only best effort guesstimate and reporting from other observers, as far as I know there is no any privacy concerns.
I claim I don't know your identity, your real name, your address
As I don't expose my players name I can admit I could be able join your hosted game and my computer possibly needed some networking details to perform that. It this breaking of GDPR? Anyway to confirm this please provide me your player nickname to review it,In my mind are these players accounts I joined in non-specific time. Are those you?
011235813 1600 gawky iaintborg- n.n. rotfl timidsmurf vieuxreac wxyz yazney_k-
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1 hour ago, rm -rf said:
I will very concerned if 0AD promotes this kind of denunciation page.
https://wildfiregames.com/forum/profile/36868-goat/?tab=field_core_pfield_17
Without diving into data collection, without consent, without any true game justification and without any release as @G.O.A.T is doing...
You are really funny guy or girl. My tab with names does not contain any private data. Do you consider your nickname in game to be private data? Sorry even GDPR does not care about you being borg or cyborg or smurf I simply see only reaction to the fact someone uncover your player identities. Like small baby when you take away its toy
Are there any private data leaked without your consent?
Maybe you really need spend some time to read:
Terms of Service
Terms of Usage
Privacy PolicyFeel free to answer with strong arguments .-) otherwise shut up baby
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peaceful solution to moderation disputes
in Introductions & Off-Topic Discussion
Posted
The very basic question we need to answer is - How it all started?
My understanding from observation is that there was multiple issues from @Yekaterina
Moderators come into play - it looks every discussion failed. Punishment did not have effect. @Norse_Harold came with idea of restorative justice (it looks there was some mutual agreement to get @Yekaterinakarma back).
It sounds very logical that when someone want to follow such path it will be under supervision with strict rules. I feel all failure is in this point. @Yekaterinahad different point of view what is restorative justice vs @Norse_Harold opinion.
There are also some good stuff @Yekaterina did for 0ad (a few mods) but it is not about it rightnow.
@Atrik that is my EQ hope it helps to see the things....