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@Genava55 could you connect the dots for us?

Is that the problem? Their argument is that sails were implemented as a supplemental propulsion and that rowing remained the primary source of propulsion. Certainly the technological challenge would have prevented more effective rigging systems to arise. Sail or no sail, there will need to be some distinguishing features of the larger arrow ship. My thoughts are: a couple shields near to the bow, a curved upper beam at the bow (compared to the H boat which is about parallel), and a straight lower beam at the bow. maybe the trade ship can repurpose the existing scout ship, removing the sail, shields, and adding some barrels.

ok i think ideally, the scout ship can be modeled directly off of the hjorspring boat, this will be a nice touch. then for the larger version, the arrow ship, we can take inspiration from the many petroglyphs showing some ships, like a larger hjorsping style ship. @nifa @wowgetoffyourcellphone i beg u this would be so cool There are a lot of diverse petroglyphs, with some showing some beautifully curved beams both at the front and back. im not sure what that round thing could be, maybe a shield? We could maybe justify putting 1 or 2 shields for cladding at the front, not the full rows like the current ships have. Its a logical place to carry them, after all. @Genava55 this paper does some interesting analysis and interpretation of petroglyphs. They argue that the larger notches on some glyphs might be masts instead of crewmen. They argue that sails could have been used, but its not really conclusive evidence. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00293652.2024.2357135

skipa is used in game, but the file uses knarvi

@nifa if ur still around is this something you would be up to try?

The wikipedia article has a petroglyph with a ship seemingly much larger than the others, perhaps we could feature two different sizes? One a scout ship, one an arrow ship.

the light warship can be designed after the Hjortspring boat, if someone can work on it. Its very cool. Maybe some adjustments can be made to the current arrow ship to make it more accurate. also, the merchant ship is a bit big

using the new shields for some flavor

@Obskiuras maybe this would interest u? the .png should be 128x128, with the background left transparent

also good inspiration for an emblem IMO

in my hosts I allow some curse words, when used in normal speaking, but not when used to offend or insult. Frankly, spamming swearwords and slurs is annoying on top of being unfunny. i also disallow automation tools found in certain mods because they are not fair. I think more hosts should do this, especially for competitive games (see title) where a level playing field is important.

I think its simply transparency. And it is great! thx @ffm2

Since the dao is really big i think they could get the longsword mixin that the mace sword champs get.

I didnt notice that, but ill keep an eye out for it.

@Deicide4u the current community mod has changes you might be interested in. you can get it in the mod downloader. CCs and forts still have the same ttk with non-siege units, but other buildings can be poked down quite effectively. There are some other changes too.