[Re-release of 0 A.D. Alpha 25: Yaunā]

Currently I have Alpha 25a. Installed via SVN, on Linux

I'd like to update to 25b.

What I know is that one can update the version with:

svn up
cd build/workspaces
./update-workspaces.sh -j3
cd gcc
make -j3

 

But I believe this will not give me A25b, but a newer development version. Thats not what I want

Is there a different bunch of commands which will change it to A25b instead? @Stan` is there a simple solution?

[Why do spear cav attack slower than their infantry counterpart?]

Because they don't cost metal? Lol

[Sword cav mercs are op, AS THEY SHOULD BE]

I also think that sword cav is fine. It can gather only food, and mercs can't gather at all. So why wouldn't it be stronger than citizen soldiers which can gather everything...

[AI never builds palisades or walls]

I'm a top 40 player and I build palisades very rarely, walls almost never. So hey, the bot must be clever ; )

[Ptolemies against war elephants]

1. Javelin cavalry

2. Javelineers

3. Slingers

4. Camel archers

Hit-and-run-tactics are helpful

Slingers might be preferable because they contribute so well to your economy

[A25 Release Bug reports]

- if you use rightclick+ctrl+q on a formation, those soldiers will not attack only units, but also hack down buildings

- buildings close to hostile fortresses decay to gaia

[Ratings has been kicked from the lobby]

Right now the Ratings bot is in the lobby, but again all ratings are hidden and all stats

[Ability to view units garrisoned in enemy buildings]

No, it's secret

 

[Why do catapults can still attack people if people are invulnerable to them?]

The splash damage in A23 was totally OP. It felt like if you have a non-catapult civ and you allow the cata civ to mass the catas then you are dead. Also, the splash damage favors the ugly turtling. Turtling with catas.

[Thoughts on Heroes.]

3 minutes ago, LetswaveaBook said:

Hamilcar provides a global speed boost, which allows you to outmaneuver the opponent. It means that your opponent can't catch your archers. So I think he is decent, though not the best.

Local, not global. He will outrun his infantry, but his melee cavalry will outrun him ; )

 

[Thoughts on Heroes.]

What you suggest for Agis makes him not much more useful though ; )

Other bad heroes:

Xerxes
Ashoka
Perikles
Hamilkar
Alexander

[Why do catapults can still attack people if people are invulnerable to them?]

31 minutes ago, Dizaka said:

You can u garrison archers and kill a catapult safely from a distance ...

Archer range: 60 / 70

Catapult range: 100 (has been 80 in A24)

[Why do catapults can still attack people if people are invulnerable to them?]

They don't look useless to me. If a ram reaches a building, swordsmen can be ungarrisoned and defend quickly. If an elephant approches a building, ranged units can be ungarrisoned and also defend rather quickly. The catapult is the only siege weapon which can take out key buildings from a save distance, inside the own fortified position.

[Sword cav OP?]

29 minutes ago, alre said:

sword cav is OP, I have already compared them to axe cav to show how far superior they are, without even considering their effectiveness against buildings, which isn't so relevant in the balance of the game (if you chop down enemy cc with cav, you have won anyway).

I disagree. Ax cav can be effectively used for anti-building missions, for example sneaky attacks. Only persians have them btw

[Sword cav OP?]

I don't think they should be changed. Structures have been very OP in A24, so it's great that some soldiers are effective against them.

[How to use the Market?]

11 hours ago, Thales said:

I understand what you are saying, but why is it that the AI has more income and is more efficient at bartering?

 

The AI likes it very much to invest heavily into trading, that's why its likely having more trade income than a human player.

What it doesnt seem to like is bartering high amounts for low amounts, rather low amounts for high amounts.

[0AD Memes, jokes]

7 hours ago, Yekaterina said:

Why are you floating 20K resources ?!  

In a good TG when I am rich I float 4000, but that's about it. 

Well... It was just an AI match. 4 very hard opponents and only 2 allies, but an AI match nevertheless

7 hours ago, Yekaterina said:

What is the point of storehouses on control groups?

Techs

[How to use the Market?]

1 hour ago, Thales said:

When the game ends o A.D. displays the closing statistics. There is a tab for "market", which shows data such as income and barter efficiency as two examples. I noted that my income has been $0 and my barter efficiency if very low at 18%. The AI had substantial income and a high barter efficiency rate. I ran across a Reddit which stated that you need to build two markets and trade between them. (As in next to each other?)  Is that correct?

 

Note that bartering and trading are 2 totally different things which have nothing to do with each other except for that you need a market. For bartering, you just need one market, that's it.

1 hour ago, Thales said:

 

Since I'm playing "single player" against the AI, I was curious as how trade worked, since it would seem to require a "third" player?

You don't really need a third player for trading. However, if you trade with an ally and not with yourself you will receive a small "international bonus". Notice that trading is not really trading but just resource generation.

Also notice that trading is not always necessary, gathering and bartering is usually much more efficient.

[0AD Memes, jokes]

[DDOS is back]

What 0AD lacks is the possibilty to simply load a match.

That way the crashed games would not be totally destroyed but they could at least be loaded. It would not solve the issue completely but if we assume that people are behind the "ddosing" it could demotivate them a bit, maybe.

[Why should ranged units be forced to attack closest units?]

Maybe it's good for performance if ranged units just attack the closest enemy. Filtering by unit type or by hitpoints could be bad for the performance.

[Suggestion: Make new building orders by AI invisible to human player]

If an unstarted constructionside gets destroyed, the player gets all the resources back. The more you build before you lose a constructionside, the more resources you lose.

Id prefer it if the AI learns to go to the spot before placing the constructionside, that might be a better solution than making AI constructionsides invisible.

[petra_extreme]

2 hours ago, Ceres said:

BTW, does Petra use formations? (and would get bonuses for that?)

It seems like Petra never uses formations, but this is just a minor mistake and not too relevant in comparison to other mistakes.

[petra_extreme]

2 minutes ago, Yekaterina said:

Thank you very much @andy5995, how did you tweak the resource gathering bonus for the AI? Which file and which command controls the AI's eco bonus? 

https://github.com/andy5995/petra_extreme/blob/faa5d1a086fc61af3a89dccb408ab4cfc7cc6e15/simulation/helpers/InitGame.js#L44-L48

 

// Sandbox, Very Easy, Easy, Medium, Hard, Very Hard, Extreme

// rate apply on resource stockpiling as gathering and trading

// time apply on building, upgrading, packing, training and technologies

let rate = [ 0.42, 0.56, 0.75, 1.00, 1.25, 1.56, 2.5 ];

let time = [ 1.40, 1.25, 1.10, 1.00, 1.00, 1.00, 1.0 ];

[petra_extreme]

How exactly?