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long term I want to update them, but no time till feature freeze unfortunately, so I will either include the ones from DE if they look better or maybe update just some of those. Also long term we should think more about what information should really be displayed there and make an extensive list, but that won't happen for a25. About the Experience trickle: Would be good to just include it in the Baracks, stable and elephant stable pictures.

True, but choke points only working because of bad unit movement and pathfinding seems also bad to me From my point of view, choke point are restrictive, not because only few units can pass is, but because you can realistically block it with wall and palisades. Well but for which attacks do you need surface-area? Not sure if I understand your point. Do you think catapults will be too strong because they can theoretically affect more units with their splash damage? True, but that depends if people use formations or not. Also I'm not a fan of individual micro, so my opinion is very biased here.

Generally not bad, could be a bit more symmetrical i.e. the bottom left edge could be a bit less crinkled and rounded and your version looks very handpainted with the smooth color transitions, which is a design choice, but personally I would like a bit of a light paper texture on top.

My opinion would be to stick to the old paper look, but a lighter less burnt and destroyed version. A bit cleaner and minimalistic in style, but still a nice old paper texture.

art/textures/ui/loading Agreed.

Snapping: Territory decay: Triremes: Roman army camp: Autoqueue: Carthage Sacred Band: Catapult: Embassies & Mercenary Camps Experience trickle: Fishing: Forge: Gathering: Kush Pyramids: Outposts: Palisades: Quinquereme: Resource counter: Map flare: war elephants whales Forge Formations Biomes Iberian Fireship Tresures Barracks Cavalry stables Elephant stable

The current loading screen tips are outdated, both the information, as well as with the visuals. This thread is to make new nice looking pictures and possibly also crowd check the descriptions themselves. Text: https://code.wildfiregames.com/D4107 Give your comment, give better pictures.

I actually don't mind it that much either. Sure, visually they are a bit clumped, but gameplay wise it seems fine to me.

matchsettings.json matchsettings.mp.json

yeah, same error.

@ValihrAnt About the biomes: would it help to tweak the resource values depending on the biome? So that trees and bushes in biomes that have only few of them have even more wood and the ones in india could have less, compared to the situation now. Could that help to make them more attractive for MP?

yes they did. stoneSmall and stoneLarge and some were changed.

@Stan` the mines are probably an effect of the terrain update. But it also makes sense that the alpine biome has plenty of stone.

If chicken are too small we should use other animals. But please no monster chicken.

Just found this video and thought that it is a good watch and also very related to this topic:

Disagree. The metal mining rate is much lower than the wood gathering rate, so if you want to mine enough metal to make a p1 merc rush, that should clearly put you to an eco disadvantage, as your CS are busy mining metal and not gathering wood. Also, as mercs don't help you with your eco either it still means that this is a risky strategy. Yes, mercenaries can make a big difference, but if your opponent only has a few CS at the point you show up with the mercs, than he made wrong choices and probably should have scouted more. Regarding advanced rank: yeah, would also be ok as a p2 tech. About the embassy: True. If it is indeed so fast, then it wouldn't make a difference.

@LetswaveaBook I like thew general idea, but I think it is a little bit to complicated. This extreme reduction in training time between p1 and p2 seems not logic to me. My thoughts for mercs (trainable from p1 or p2) is this: High metal cost (maybe 60 for infantry and 80 for cav or even more) - This should prevent spam in p1 advanced rank from the beginning - You should get something for your investment no (or very little training time) - to differentiate them from CS Once you build the embassy, you can train them from every barrack - Works as an entry cost and to not be restricted by the number of embassy

I would say there is always something to do and any help is very much appreciated

A cleanup would definitely be good imo. Mostly that it's a trigger map ( but could also use new textures). My main problem is that it is included in the default filter, so you click on it, expect a normal game and then gaia shows up and bothers you the whole time. _____________________________________________ My first proposal for a cleanup would be: Skirmish maps: All the nice looking maps that are not procedual Random maps: All the nice looking "normal" procedural maps Special maps: All the trigger maps and otherwise "special" maps, independent how they are generated And the maps that are now in the scenario category can either be put in the skirmish category, if they don't use triggers/ have special objectives, they can be put in the special category if they have these features or if they have really elaborate objectives, they should be turned into a campaign. _____________________________________________ Second proposal if we want to get rid of the skirmish/random differentiation completely (which I also wouldn't mind) Default/Standard: All skirmish and "normal" procedual maps (i.e maps where you can have standard match on without having to worry about flooding or gaia attacks ect) Special maps: The rest (Trigger, Objectives, experimental ect.) And then we could still use tags for the map filter e.g. "balanced", "MP", "naval" ect. ______________________________________________ The best reason I see the keep the skirmish/random differentiation, is that you can choose the # of player on random maps, which you cannot on skirmish maps. But I don't think this would be a huge problem.

I like the idea of an hourglass, but at the end of the day, the complete UI would need a proper audit to decide which elements are good and which are not.

There is already a map that uses flooding. you can find it in the random map category under the filter "Trigger maps" and it is called "Extinct Volcano"

You can, which is quite handy Its in binaries/sytem/pyrogenesis.exe But make sure to only use the [autobuild] revision for testing, as the revisions in between may not be that stable when using this autobuild (Its only done once a day and not after every commit)

Yes, for technologies. For buildings, this time gets shorter, depending on the number of builders.

You use svn? Then just svn up to the newest autobuild and all should be fine. I don't think mixing binaries and source from different revisions is a good idea.

In pic 2 means the "cost" of time, or the time in seconds to build/ research something and in pic 1 it means the Game speed. @Lion.Kanzen was faster