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This is clearly wrong. @guerringuerrin has already pointed this out as "awareness." I would go further to say this is actually multitasking, which @borg- has already identified as the primary skill in R(eal)T(ime)S(trategy) games. It is also not just "repetitive meaningless actions." First, your mod doesn't repeat the same thing. It optizimies based on how many you can make to reach your ideal population composition. Without the mod, you would have to decide what batch size to make and of what units to make. At all times, do you know how many jav inf you have at all times? Do you know how many sword cav you have at any moment? Do you know how many slingers you need to make to reach your ideal population percentage? I don't know. But I can make guesses informed by experience (i.e., skill). Your mod does this all for you. If you truly want something to eliminate repetitive clicks then that already exists as part of the base game. You have created something that does more and creates a competitive advantage. Most importantly, you've been told other players don't like it and choosing to use it anyways -
Indeed Boudica. Not even the market exploit is considered a cheat. Reza knows about quickstart, Seleucids knows reza considers it a cheat. I think its quite distasteful bringing up war or PTSD here. Reza had this stance before the war already. Reza probably doesn't really care but bringing this up does not show a interest in a reasonable discussion. Instead the sanity of the conversational partner is attacked. -
Especially when half of the game's loop in the early to mid game is keeping your population up. Like, everyone practices getting to the 100 pop ASAP since it constitutes a major part of both economy and military gameplay. And here you have people who are automating it. It's wrong. -
Not at all. Who said that I'm going to remain in SP forever? Also, I care about the game enough to defend the fair-play. And to call out those players who blatantly lie how something obviously unfair like an automation script "isn't cheating". Maybe I also want to win some fair games when I DO decide to play MP?
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By guerringuerrin · Posted
There is a skill on being aware of your military production and keeping your pop up. In fact, just yesterday a player told me he was using the autotrain feature because "it helps me keep up my population". And in the context of the (serious) discussion about this feature, sounds like an euphemism to say "it takes away brain time to come up with original strategies". Yeah, I mean the current training system is buggy in the way I've described. Is very different from a feature that instantly produces units according resources and housing available. In my opinion, you took automation to an extreme, and it does provide a clear advantage over those who don’t use that feature. And I feel frustrated that we can't even agree on that and the importance of fair play in a competitive environment. Cause might not be a super popular RTS but 0ad actually has a competitive community at some point. You’ve got a point here, as you never tried to keep your mod in the shadows, and I don’t think you’ve ever acted dishonestly. So accusing you of hiding it or being a cheater doesn’t add anything to the discussion. However, it’s currently impossible to know if someone is using it independently, and not everyone may be as honest as you in that regard and yeah, those are cheaters. -
By real_tabasco_sauce · Posted
Truly. Especially the whataboutisms. Instead of defending the mods, its (understandably) easier to go on the offensive. I guess its also easier to contort the truth and put words in peoples' mouths that way. -
All it does it reading user inputs in dedicated panel to issue existing engine command to train unit from buildings. Can't call it autotrainer? "auto" just means that relative to some anterior state, managing a certain aspect is either made easier, either handled by scripts or engine. Your script has as side-effect to re target closer units, it does mitigate baiting in addition to helping targeting "higher priority target". > Thin air Indeed, as you contributed to the myth that autosniping would be a very bad and shady and would kill 0ad, i understand that now that it's actually you who is developing could be bothering you. You should just admit you changed your mind. At least to yourself . Sorry if that sounds dismissive, but how can a SP player (as you say you are) jealous other players about what feature they use or not in the game? Why do you care about the introduction of features that you can always choose not to use, and that you don't even have to bother with the whole "it gives a competitive advantage to it's user" topic?
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