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Generic Name: Companion Cavalry.
Specific Name: Hetairos.
Class: Cavalry Spearman.
Hacker Armament: Macedonian cavalry lance, the "xyston". Decorative sword.
Appearance:
Basic: .
Advanced: .
Elite: .
Figure(s): -
History: There were two guard cavalry regiments, each 1,000 strong. These were the Agema (the 'Guards') and the Hetairoi ('Companions'). The Hetairoi were recruited from the younger generation of military settlers and acted as the standing guard cavalry unit of the army, serving in peace and in war. However it seems that writers referred to them by several names other than just the 'companions'; the basilike ile ('royal squadron' or 'regia ala' according to Livy), and the hippos hetairike ('horse companions'). Their full title may well have been the 'royal ala of the companions'.
Garrison: 2.
Function: Good vs. Skirmishers and Swordsmen, poor vs. Spearmen and Archers.
Special: Upon promoting to the 3rd ('elite') rank, the Companion becomes a Cataphract champion cavalry with extra armor and attacking power.

Why don't we merged two unit as one because it doesn't worth the resources to train Hetairos while we could train Kataphraktos or unless it's main function was to portray the evolution of the Seleucid shock cavalry?

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Generic Name: Citizen-Militia Cavalry.
Specific Name: Hippakontistès Politès.
Class: Cavalry Skirmisher 2.
Ranged Armament: Javelins. Clutch of Javelins in his left hand.
Appearance:
Basic: .
Advanced: N/A.
Elite: N/A.
History: .
Garrison: 2.
Function: .
Special: Trained from the Civic Center-only. Trains fast, but weak. Does not promote to higher ranks.

Do we need this?

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Generic Name: Companion Cavalry.

Specific Name: Hetairos.

Class: Cavalry Spearman.

Hacker Armament: Macedonian cavalry lance, the "xyston". Decorative sword.

Appearance:

Basic: .

Advanced: .

Elite: .

Figure(s): -

History: There were two guard cavalry regiments, each 1,000 strong. These were the Agema (the 'Guards') and the Hetairoi ('Companions'). The Hetairoi were recruited from the younger generation of military settlers and acted as the standing guard cavalry unit of the army, serving in peace and in war. However it seems that writers referred to them by several names other than just the 'companions'; the basilike ile ('royal squadron' or 'regia ala' according to Livy), and the hippos hetairike ('horse companions'). Their full title may well have been the 'royal ala of the companions'.

Garrison: 2.

Function: Good vs. Skirmishers and Swordsmen, poor vs. Spearmen and Archers.

Special: Upon promoting to the 3rd ('elite') rank, the Companion becomes a Cataphract champion cavalry with extra armor and attacking power.

Why don't we merged two unit as one because it doesn't worth the resources to train Hetairos while we could train Kataphraktos or unless it's main function was to portray the evolution of the Seleucid shock cavalry?

You answer your own question.

Generic Name: Citizen-Militia Cavalry.

Specific Name: Hippakontistès Politès.

Class: Cavalry Skirmisher 2.

Ranged Armament: Javelins. Clutch of Javelins in his left hand.

Appearance:

Basic: .

Advanced: N/A.

Elite: N/A.

History: .

Garrison: 2.

Function: .

Special: Trained from the Civic Center-only. Trains fast, but weak. Does not promote to higher ranks.

Do we need this?

Why not? The Seleucids had citizen militia cavalry and infantry in each of the four tetrapoleis.

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The confusion which i mean that a Macedonian Hetairos was a Champion Cavalry while a Seleucid Hetairos was not, the former cannot perform food gathering task (meat gathering) while the latter was able to perform such task because they are no longer considered as Champion Cavalry. The another problem is will the Seleucid Hetairos who have become a Kataphraktos retains the ability to collect food or they lost their basic ability and become a dedicated soldier?

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Total war center, my other forum. ( but never posted anything there). Last night finding German stuff.

Was a topic asking for masked units for Rome II.

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Amazing, I see something similar with, is a pdf

http://www.academia.edu/970306/The_Oriental_Agora_the_Case_of_Seleucid_Europos-Dura

With masked cataphract, this where I found. exactly

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?600743-Will-be-in-game-Hellenistic-bearded-face-masked-helmet-in-Rome-2

Now i found this, is Roman Syrian or Syrian?

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Greetings my first post here :) The game is great, keep the great work :thumbsup:

This is Philip II on the picture, I never read about Seleukos Monolftalmos. Or it´s some joke?

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Greetings my first post here :) The game is great, keep the great work :thumbsup:

This is Philip II on the picture, I never read about Seleukos Monolftalmos. Or it´s some joke?

its right Philippus II was a one eyed too.

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Seleucid architecture. Must read (from this page)

The Seleucid architecture of Iran encompasses the buildings constructed during the period of Greek power from 330 B.C. through the 2nd century B.C. The terminal date varies from region to region, since the Seleucid Greeks continually lost control of area to the Parthians invading from the northeast and to various local warlords. The scarcity of historical documents complicates the identification of structures erected under Greek rule, and archeological investigations have produced no Seleucid site comparable to Aï Khanum (see Āy Ḵānom) in Afghanistan or Failaka in the Persian Gulf. The situation is further confused by the fact that Greek masons and stonecutters were employed by the Achaemenids as early as the late 6th century B.C. It is entirely likely that elements of their influence persisted in later times. Thus mere classical appearance is not a reliable indication of Seleucid date.

The spectacular temple at Kangāvar exemplifies the problems of identifying Seleucid architecture. The large structure with its great Ionic columns set on a high stone platform has been equated with a Greek temple noted by Isidore of Charax and mentioned in a royal Seleucid inscription dated 193 B.C. found at Nehāvand. Recent excavations, however, support Sasanian rather than Seleucid dating.

The Ionic structure at Ḵorra, near Qom in central Iran, is similarly problematic. The ruin has been called both a Parthian temple and a Seleucid. Ḵorra is distinctly Greek in style but finds no real parallel in any other Greek or Iranian monuments.

Random finds of fragmentary Ionic bases and portions of pilasters suggest that classical, or classicizing, buildings also existed at Bīsotūn and at least three sites in Azerbaijan. Whether these are Seleucid or Parthian is not certain.

A better indication of Greek architecture may be the presence of fired clay roofing tiles. These tiles are not characteristic of Iranian architectural practice in any period and thus may serve as clear indication of a strong Greek presence. Such tiles, known from Qaḷʿa-ye Zoḥāk in Azerbaijan and from the great city of Susa in Ḵūzestān, show that gable-roofed structures in the Greek style existed in Iran.

Furthermore, the ridge tiles from Susa are ornamented with palmettes, another Greek characteristic. The type of buildings constructed in the Seleucid period at Susa is unknown, though a temple of Herakles and a theater have been placed in the section known as the Ville des Artisans by Roman Ghirshman

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