seeh Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 From a beginner's perspective, similar things should look similar too. compare india war ele and mauryans archer elephant. I think those who have been playing a little longer will of course not want to change that (almost all of them). I understand that of course. it is confusing anyway. to make it easier to understand, mauri seem sometimes good to me. for quick play ptol. many of the ptol looks a bit similar. my opinion. maybe Spartans are a bit slower, thats maybe the easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 Maurya and Ptolemies are not easy civs to play with, because they require a lot of micro-managing. Easy beginner civs: 1. Rome (good at defence, doesn't have major weaknesses, not too complex structure tree) 2. Britons (not much to learn, pure brutality, useful dog, quick houses) 3. Iberia (OP defence, simple structure tree) Spartans are slightly more difficult because you need to balance the eco for skiritai and hoplite champs. Requires much metal mining. Carthage is strong if you bother to learn their structure tree. They can play many different strategies. Same applies for Macedon Athens... strong navy but weak on land. Kush, Seleucid, Ptolemies, Maurya are OP if you know how to play them, but maybe not for beginners. Persians... hard to master, slow boom. Gaul... you have to rush and raid at all times, which is not easy for nubs. I can't play them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alre Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 I don't think maurya require more micro than other civs. Their economy is very simple too, as they need very little stone. Also, they are OP, so they are quite rewarding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetswaveaBook Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 I think Seleucids would be the best for beginners. I consider rushing not a strategy suited to beginners, so I would recommend a civ that has the tools to crack a defense. Seleucids seem to be the best for that. They have pikemen, cavalry archers, cataphracts with more HP, good siege&elephants and their military colonies are nice too. The thing why I would recommend them over Ptolemies is their champion swordsmen which prevents a weakness to rams. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 The camp swords really make the diference although you can g with a 5/1 or maybe 5/2 , pikemen swordsman ratio , get no more than 5 elephants ( 10 or more if go with seleukus) , then sink your resources in the champ cav paired with stable upgrades and antiochus , this army comp will make godly at micro when you eventually start winning ehehheh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Seleucids do have the potential to cater for a wide range of strategies, yes, especially cavalry. They are almost on par with Persians in that respect, but also have the siege tower troll and elephant tsunami... However, you need to choose between champion pikemen and champion swordsmen. Not sure if nubs can always make the correct choice. Also their structure tree is above average in complexity. Personally I find cavalry somewhat difficult to use compared to infantry push, maybe nubs will also find it challenging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 My favourite civ now is Macedonians. I am not sure if they are suitable for beginners but I can pull out many surprising tactics with them. Pros: they allow you to play any strategy you can think of (except for elephants, of course). Counters archer effectively Con: Booms slowly due to pikemen, complicated structure tree. Macedon is a good starting point to learn the game because you see pretty much every infantry and siege unit, as well as some cav options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 In one word... Phillipos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said: In one word... Phillipos I prefer Demetrios sorry... I love siege so he is my man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 Like seriously Phillip makes xbow and companions godly. For cavalry i find that you have to kinda trick your opponent to bait them into coming a bit ou of position since that is what melee cav punishes more . I am yet to try spear cav plus cav skirms or regular skirms though . The only gripe i have with phillip is that in game he doesn't have the vergina cuirass. Demetrios is a very safe and solid choice obviously but I'll always remember him as the poor sod who couldn't take Rhodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said: The only gripe i have with phillip is that in game he doesn't have the vergina cuirass. I don't know what you are going on about here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Yekaterina said: I don't know what you are going on about here... In game his model has a cheap looking cuirass, seriously it looks like something a larper would use. I would give his model the cuirass that was found in his tomb. Edited May 7, 2021 by PyrrhicVictoryGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted May 7, 2021 Report Share Posted May 7, 2021 He does have that cuirass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Quick update , phillip indeed has the armor , i tested this just now but i swear i did a game where he had that brown armor that is on his portrait , maybe he also has cuirass permutations? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 8 hours ago, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said: Quick update , phillip indeed has the armor , i tested this just now but i swear i did a game where he had that brown armor that is on his portrait , maybe he also has cuirass permutations? Yeah, he has an armor variation ith the big gorgon face on it. In DE, I believe I removed that variation and used it elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Him in-game (Empires Ascendant). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 thanks for clarifying man , the first one on the left looks sick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said: thanks for clarifying man , the first one on the left looks sick I tweaked him a little bit more for Delenda Est to look like this: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Very nice , good job and keep developing delenda est 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yekaterina Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 Can you make the rider dismount? That would be awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted May 8, 2021 Report Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Yekaterina said: Can you make the rider dismount? That would be awesome Using the Upgrade feature, you could toggle between infantry and cavalry versions of the hero (see Delenda Est). Unfortunately, no dismount/mount animation yet, but the feature works reasonably well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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