Lion.Kanzen Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 More clones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiotraining Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 This was one of the suggested games.. very impressive!! https://youtu.be/n1yrFE9FfrA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiotraining Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 Sorry but is freaking cool!! I fell in love only with these trailers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiotraining Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) A couple of considerations from Homeworld gameplay @Lion.Kanzen sound design will be extremely decisive! From what I see it really creates some 40% of game immersion - also there're quite a lot of visual effects (laser, explosion, missile trajectories..) that would be cool to simulate. But I have no idea if it's technically possible on pyrogenesis. @Stan` what do you think? I'm not that much into flashy effects, but they surely have quite an importance for a futuristic timeline - really, really love the style!! It perfectly combines realism with future elements. Maybe something that would fit well also with 0AD general style. I was initially thinking about the exaggerate proportions of StarCraft, but maybe a more realistic approach may be more the correct way Edited December 7, 2021 by Radiotraining 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted December 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, Radiotraining said: also there're quite a lot of visual effects (laser, explosion, missile trajectories..) that would be cool to simulate. But I have no idea if it's technically possible on pyrogenesis. @Stan` what do you think? Explosions, yes Missile we have flaming projectiles Lasers, no would be fun to have but not sure what we need @vladislavbelov 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiotraining Posted December 7, 2021 Report Share Posted December 7, 2021 Nice! Thanks for the answer! Yeah, I said "laser" just generically, I don't have specific ideas either what we could precisely need.. but looking a bit on those gameplays there're quite a lot of lines and trajectories that create the effect of a battle with different types of weapons, so it was just to check out the limits or potentials of the engine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Federalist Marine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Radiotraining Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Yeaaah very nice one! let's gooo!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 26 minutes ago, Radiotraining said: Yeaaah very nice one! let's gooo!! I made an update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said: our marines will wear some kind of high heels. is a technology that will adjust the foot to make space jumps, as if it were a raptor. Edited December 8, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroder Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 The trailers are very interesting. I also like the look of Homeworld or Iron Harvest the most. Notice how they have a quite realistic scale between the environment / trees and the buildings/ units. And just the ground textures and grass.. or the flame thrower effects.. o_o 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladislavbelov Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Stan` said: Lasers, no would be fun to have but not sure what we need @vladislavbelov We don't have a ready-made solution to create a laser. Currently we can have only static lasers with a X model (like for grass). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) Quote Protoss comes from the Greek "πρώτος" meaning "first." This name is possibly given because the protoss were the first semi-successful xel'naga creation, bearing the name "Firstborn. https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Protoss Spoiler Quote The original conception of the zerg in the StarCraft alpha had them named "Nightmarish Invaders" and later "zurg." This was later changed to "zerg" to avoid legal action from Pixar, as per the character of Emperor Zurg from Toy Story.[134] Also in this version, the zerg were a race of bio-mechanical creatures.[135] It was decided early on that the zerg would literally swarm their enemies.[136] They were originally concieved as "teeth and feral rage; the dark side of evolution." Sharks were used as a point of reference in the original conception, taking flight to hunt humans from the sky.[137] The name "Nightmare Invaders" was retained for the freeware version of StarCraft: Loomings on its victory screen.[138] Naked Alien (Bio-Cyborg) Spoiler Concept art. Inspiration Spoiler I am going to take aesthetic and conceptual ideas from Robotech (as it is known in the western world)-Super Dimensional Cavalry Southern Cross Spoiler I think the aesthetics are superior to that of Blizzard from 98-99. I like the idea of a mounted unit (equivalent to cavalry) . Some ideas from Macross. Edited December 8, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) thanks for the edit, I'm from the cell phone. I was looking for concepts. We already have two races. With its basic unit. Edited December 8, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiotraining Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 Seriously I'm in love - Okay I'll stop spamming Homeworld stuff now. But this is only a reference on the very detailed sound design. I could perceive some of the depth from the gameplay, but this voice-over is just .. wow! Anyway I hope this can be a good inspiration also to think a bit outside the box even for Stella Artis. I was thinking merely how to replicate the StarCraft formula, but maybe some additional care for details could really make the difference! Just a casual thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiotraining Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said: thanks for the edit, I'm from the cell phone. I was looking for concepts. We already have two races. With its basic unit. I love the spirit of initiative! This is what is needed to flow ideas and push the work on this mod. I think a good way to organize the work could be to find some visual languages for each civ. The names haven't been sorted out 100%, but there's a consensus on the elements of them : - Terran are represented by an international organization that can be colonialist and exploitative. (I think the mecha references you have posted are quite useful for planes, tanks and all the technical vehicles) - Ants (zergs) are the organic aliens with characteristics of insects - SHA (protoss) are ancient aliens. They may look like the "greys" and I thought they may combine elements of Egypt, Nubia or old mesoamerican civilizations to give them some archaic and mysterious flavour these are just ideas, of course. But I think is important to define some core visual elements of each to develop the rest. Stan had a good idea to use "pureref". Maybe we could use that app to come up with a reference moodboard for each faction. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Radiotraining said: SHA (protoss) are ancient aliens. They may look like the "greys" and I thought they may combine elements of Egypt, Nubia or old mesoamerican civilizations to give them some archaic and mysterious flavour I call my Protoss as Pragsophoss. Zerg= Czenoids. Terrans = Hunumans Edited December 8, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) Physically strong thanks to ancestral training. To this they developed natural diets from all over the Galaxy. They practice martial arts and hand-to-hand combat. They use the power of their mind, robots, and life-energy weapons. Some individuals are able to unlock an ability that gives them more mental and physical power. Turning them into super soldiers. They have the weakness of becoming weak and losing muscle if they are born with defects or are lyciated. They are pragmatic and stoic. They are a warrior race dedicated to wisdom. They tend to fight amongst their tribes and races. They were created by the Ancient Sentinels. They are in harmony with resources. They feed on small, unintelligent creatures. Their society is ruled by a council of sages, the masters of the Protosophy. the basic unit is the Ekdromant. Edited December 8, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 5 hours ago, vladislavbelov said: We don't have a ready-made solution to create a laser. Currently we can have only static lasers with a X model (like for grass). Excuse my ignorance, but how could the effects used on grass be applied for leisure?, once I tried it with particles but it was disastrous. I'm doing some for a personal future mod, I hope that some things that I create that are useful for Stella Artis will be used too. Here's a biped robot that I'm struggling to create a decent animation. Peek 08-12-2021 09-02.mp4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladislavbelov Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, Lopess said: Excuse my ignorance, but how could the effects used on grass be applied for leisure? I mean not effect but the X model. The popular and old trick for grass to use 2 quads (or more sometimes) perpendicular to each other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted December 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, vladislavbelov said: I mean not effect but the X model. The popular and old trick for grass to use 2 quads (or more sometimes) perpendicular to each other. One cannot stretch the quad to join the mesh and the enemy though... At least if there is code for it I don't know how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladislavbelov Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Stan` said: One cannot stretch the quad to join the mesh and the enemy though. That's why I mentioned static Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted December 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 28 minutes ago, vladislavbelov said: That's why I mentioned static How hard would it be to make a shader or something? It would be really nice. Is it a technical limitation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladislavbelov Posted December 8, 2021 Report Share Posted December 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Stan` said: How hard would it be to make a shader or something? It would be really nice. Is it a technical limitation? Why not replace arrows by the X model and move them by a straight line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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